Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Stink has been very outspoken in his support for Monk.

Give us a summary of what was said if you can.

I heard it. Cowherd says he doesn't belong because Monk was just a "compiler". He mentioned that out of 7 big games, Super Bowls and NFC Championships, Monk only caught one touchdown. He said that being "dependable" on countless 6-yard curl patterns aren't enough to get you the label of playmaker, and it's not worthy of the Hall of Fame. He says it's not the Hall of Nice Guys, Hall of "dependable", or Hall of Longetivity. He maintains that Monk was really good, just not great. He did say he'll probably get in someday.

Wingo and Schlereth said that Monk should be recognized because he compiled the records on a run first team. Also that it shouldn't be overstated that Monk didn't have Hall of Fame QBs throwing the ball to him. They said that his modest TD numbers should be discounted because the NFL was different then compared with the Marvin Harrisons and Chris Carter days of pass happy offenses. Schlereth really drove home the point that when he retired, he was the leading receiver in NFL HISTORY.

I like Cowherd, but he strikes me as the type of talk show host who will say anything to get his audience fired up -- but he probably doesn't believe half of what he says.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Schlereth really drove home the point that when [Monk] retired, he was the leading receiver in NFL HISTORY.

... and that's really all that matters. I mean, it's kinda like Marino being denied entry to the Hall.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I heard it. Cowherd says he doesn't belong because Monk was just a "compiler". He mentioned that out of 7 big games, Super Bowls and NFC Championships, Monk only caught one touchdown. He said that being "dependable" on countless 6-yard curl patterns aren't enough to get you the label of playmaker, and it's not worthy of the Hall of Fame. He says it's not the Hall of Nice Guys, Hall of "dependable", or Hall of Longetivity. He maintains that Monk was really good, just not great. He did say he'll probably get in someday.

Wingo and Schlereth said that Monk should be recognized because he compiled the records on a run first team. Also that it shouldn't be overstated that Monk didn't have Hall of Fame QBs throwing the ball to him. They said that his modest TD numbers should be discounted because the NFL was different then compared with the Marvin Harrisons and Chris Carter days of pass happy offenses. Schlereth really drove home the point that when he retired, he was the leading receiver in NFL HISTORY.

I like Cowherd, but he strikes me as the type of talk show host who will say anything to get his audience fired up -- but he probably doesn't believe half of what he says.

What is Marino..............but a compiler? No SB's. Kind had a tendency to choke in the big game and toss the ball to the wrong color. Colin, Colin, Colin.............you dumb ass

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Hog1

What is Marino..............but a compiler? No SB's. Kind had a tendency to choke in the big game and toss the ball to the wrong color. Colin, Colin, Colin.............you dumb ass

Yeah, he addressed the Marino inconsistency. A caller pointed that out, and Cowherd says that his stats are so unbelievably outstanding that they are at the very least "a factor".

Sounded like a backpeddle if I ever heard one. But does having the record for All-time leader for receptions in NFL history mean nothing? That's the problem -- the record was broken in 1992 -- and that's ancient history to some.

Apparently, that record being broken has been the biggest obstacle. If Monk retired just after that feat, and the Hall allowed for players to get in immediately, then Monk's bust would have been in Canton long ago.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I heard it. Cowherd says he doesn't belong because Monk was just a "compiler". He mentioned that out of 7 big games, Super Bowls and NFC Championships, Monk only caught one touchdown. He said that being "dependable" on countless 6-yard curl patterns aren't enough to get you the label of playmaker, and it's not worthy of the Hall of Fame. He says it's not the Hall of Nice Guys, Hall of "dependable", or Hall of Longetivity. He maintains that Monk was really good, just not great. He did say he'll probably get in someday.

Wingo and Schlereth said that Monk should be recognized because he compiled the records on a run first team. Also that it shouldn't be overstated that Monk didn't have Hall of Fame QBs throwing the ball to him. They said that his modest TD numbers should be discounted because the NFL was different then compared with the Marvin Harrisons and Chris Carter days of pass happy offenses. Schlereth really drove home the point that when he retired, he was the leading receiver in NFL HISTORY.

I like Cowherd, but he strikes me as the type of talk show host who will say anything to get his audience fired up -- but he probably doesn't believe half of what he says.

Jeez now we've gone from Dr. Zzz and his 8 yard curls take to Cowherd with a 6 yard curl. How much longer until someone tries to reduce Monk to catching 4 yard curls?

I like Cowherd most of the time, but you're right he does try to get his audience fired up, and sometimes he's just plain ignorant but he's too much of a blowhard to admit it, he'd rather stubbornly stick to his point no matter how wrong he may be.