Wade Phillips is the new coach of the Pukes

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Interesting tidbit on the Dan Patrick show today ... of the 24 Super Bowl winning coaches, only 3 -- Bill Belichick(Browns), Mike Shanahan (Raiders), and Weeb Eubank -- won it in their second go-round as head coach.

What about Dick Vermiel?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

What about Dick Vermiel?

Yeah, you're right. Jon Cybil was wrong on that one then (he was the guest host).

Still, the point is retread head coaches are rarely successful. Not saying that it can't be done, but just look at the numbers.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, you're right. Jon Cybil was wrong on that one then (he was the guest host).

Still, the point is retread head coaches are rarely successful. Not saying that it can't be done, but just look at the numbers.

Jon Gruden? Tony Dungy?

There have been a few that have at least made it back to the Big Game as well: Holmgren, Reeves, Parcells...can't remember if Bobby Ross was at Detroit before or after San Diego.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Jon Gruden? Tony Dungy?

There have been a few that have at least made it back to the Big Game as well: Holmgren, Reeves, Parcells...can't remember if Bobby Ross was at Detroit before or after San Diego.

OK, you know what? Forget it! That's the last time I listen to anything Cybil has to say.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Jon Gruden? Tony Dungy?

There have been a few that have at least made it back to the Big Game as well: Holmgren, Reeves, Parcells...can't remember if Bobby Ross was at Detroit before or after San Diego.

I am not sure of Weeb Eubank, but Jon Gruden and Tony Dungy dont really fit. Once they were head coaches they stayed there. Unlike Shanahan, Belichick and Vermil. They either stepped down to a coodinator position or retired and then came back into the headcoach position. After Tampa Bay Dungy went to be a headcoach for the Colts and the same for Gruden after Oakland he went to be the headcoach for Tampa they didnt go back down to a coordinator or position coach.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I am not sure of Weeb Eubank, but Jon Gruden and Tony Dungy dont really fit. Once they were head coaches they stayed there. Unlike Shanahan, Belichick and Vermil. They either stepped down to a coodinator position or retired and then came back into the headcoach position. After Tampa Bay Dungy went to be a headcoach for the Colts and the same for Gruden after Oakland he went to be the headcoach for Tampa they didnt go back down to a coordinator or position coach.

Okay, I guess. How about Don Shula: Colts then Dolphins? Marv Levy: Chiefs then Bills (I know he lost with the Bills but...).

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Okay, I guess. How about Don Shula: Colts then Dolphins? Marv Levy: Chiefs then Bills (I know he lost with the Bills but...).

Still Don Shula never stepped down from being a headcoach only to come back and win with another team. In 1969 Shula was the headcoach for the Baltimore Colts, in 1970 Shula was the headcoach for the Dolphins.

Levy did take sometime away from being a headcoach between KC and Buffalo, and like you said he didnt win anything, 0-4 in the big game.

In Beemnseven's example the coaches he mentioned plus Vermil were headcoaches at one time then stepped down only to come back as a headcoach and then win the whole thing. Shula, Dungy, and Gruden never quit being a headcoach once they got that far. They may have won with a different team than where they started out at, but they moved laterally in the careers, not backwards.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Still Don Shula never stepped down from being a headcoach only to come back and win with another team. In 1969 Shula was the headcoach for the Baltimore Colts, in 1970 Shula was the headcoach for the Dolphins.

Levy did take sometime away from being a headcoach between KC and Buffalo, and like you said he didnt win anything, 0-4 in the big game.

In Beemnseven's example the coaches he mentioned plus Vermil were headcoaches at one time then stepped down only to come back as a headcoach and then win the whole thing. Shula, Dungy, and Gruden never quit being a headcoach once they got that far. They may have won with a different team than where they started out at, but they moved laterally in the careers, not backwards.

I understand. I guess my initial interpretation of the post was simply a coach having coached two teams, not the circumstances of how they arrived at their second/new team.

Wasn't Dungy fired? That's roughly the same as an involuntary retirement. Luckily he signed with the Colts about 3 hours after being handed his pink slip.