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Old 02-14-2007, 03:28 PM   #1
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

we seem to be able to swing trades on draft day just fine. Campbell, Rocky the last couple of drafts. There may or may not be teams looking to trade. There are teams every year that have high picks looking for trades to move down, or teams looking to move up to pick that one guy they need. You make it sound like trades on draft day never happen. I am not saying this is what is going to happen. I was asked what scenario I would like to happen, and that is what I would like to see. We need more picks, and trading a very high 1st round pick will definately get us more picks later in the draft. Like I said over and over and over... if we sign Fletcher good, if we dont and draft a guy good. I gave an opinion on what I would do, or would like to see. If we sign fletcher am I going to jump off the roof and quit rooting for my Skins? NO. damn people, you are acting like Vinny just handed over the reigns to me or something. I am going on past records of signing over paid, aging stars, that dont pan out. If we have signed some in the past that actually worked out maybe some of us, ME specifically, would not be so skepticle. Name a aging star we have signed recently that actually worked out.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:14 AM   #2
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

When did 32 become the definitive cut-off point for assessing physical ability for all football players? Darrell Green, Monte Coleman, Ray Brown, (Deion Sanders)...etc didn't seem to suck too bad once they passed 32. You have to take a look at an individual's workout program. If he keeps himself in great shape all year long, chances are he'll play well past 32. Barring a major injury, of course.

This line of thought makes me (age 32) feel like I'm nearing the end. I guess even though last year I ran my fastest mile time and broke my benchpress mark that I can expect that to all come crashing down anyday now. Excuse me while I go checkup on my healthcare plan.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:18 AM   #3
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

Hey guys I just want to add that I agree with the Clements hire, but I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. Can we really afford this guy? Also I would like to add that Adams from Clemson is not that good. I watched him through college and I am not very impressed. We need to draft Branch.

Also London would be a good guy in the middle till we get some draft picks next year. This team really needs to learn to draft and not trade everything away.

I know that this past off seaon was one of the worst we had for aquiring talent and giving away picks, but that is not the only reason I feel this way about our teams front office. We have had some great draft picks in here the last few years but we need to get more out our drafts. I'd really like to see us draft in every round one year or at least in all rounds on day one.
Successfull teams in this league build with the draft and our model for aquiring players is not working.

Anyway bring in some more guys this year and dont trade our draft away.

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Old 02-14-2007, 11:22 AM   #4
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Hey guys I just want to add that I agree with the Clements hire, but I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. Can we really afford this guy? Also I would like to add that Adams from Clemson is not that good. I watched him through college and I am not very impressed. We need to draft Branch.

Also London would be a good guy in the middle till we get some draft picks next year. This team really needs to learn to draft and not trade everything away.

I know that this past off seaon was one of the worst we had for aquiring talent and giving away picks, but that is not the only reason I feel this way about our teams front office. We have had some great draft picks in here the last few years but we need to get more out our drafts. I'd really like to see us draft in every round one year or at least in all rounds on day one.
Successfull teams in this league build with the draft and our model for aquiring players is not working.

Anyway bring in some more guys this year and dont trade our draft away.

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I watched him in a couple of games. I didn't see anything special. He looks undersized. Alan Branch seems like the safe pick.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:26 AM   #5
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

I like Branch and Anderson. I am a little wary of Adams.
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Branch = safe stud pick
Anderson = potential dominate type guy but might require a little seasoning
Adams = a little over hyped and maybe just a decent player not worthy of a top 10

I'd look at upside and go either Anderson or Branch. I hope we don't have a shot at Adams because I don't want to get suckered.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:42 AM   #6
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I like Branch and Anderson. I am a little wary of Adams.
I think
Branch = safe stud pick
Anderson = potential dominate type guy but might require a little seasoning
Adams = a little over hyped and maybe just a decent player not worthy of a top 10

I'd look at upside and go either Anderson or Branch. I hope we don't have a shot at Adams because I don't want to get suckered.
Couldn't have said it better myself
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:08 PM   #7
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

I think we will go after Jamaal Anderson since Renaldo Wynn is almost a definte cut and Phillip Daniels could also get cut. We just took 2 dt's last year in the draft and i think if we get a dt, it should be a cheap veteran big fat run stuffer. I think I remember hearing somewhere that we would look to get a veteran dt and have golston as the 3rd dt interchanging. The pick of a dt in free agency is also a good idea cuz there are 2 de's in the draft atleast worthy of a #6 pick in Jamaal Anderson and Gaines Adams. Atleast if ones not there we can go with the other. If we get a de in free agency then we have to pick a dt in the draft, and if Alan Branch gets snagged by someone else then we are screwed. We might then look at Amobi Okoye but that is a definite reach and is not really the big fat run stuffer i think we need, he is more of a tommie harris or warren sapp type quick pass rusher from the inside. I also think he is a bit of a project and probably wouldn't help us much his rookie year or maybe 2nd year especially with G Will's unwillingness to play rookies. I think its a lot safer to say that we go run stuffing dt in free agency and then we look at a de in the draft.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:28 PM   #8
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

How was Barrow a known injury risk? The guy was a rock his entire career.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:32 PM   #9
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How was Barrow a known injury risk? The guy was a rock his entire career.
unless i'm remembering incorrectly, that's why the giants let him go, and that's why he didn't get a huge deal from someone else.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:44 PM   #10
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unless i'm remembering incorrectly, that's why the giants let him go, and that's why he didn't get a huge deal from someone else.
I think you are "mis-remembering". He hadn't missed a game in either 6 or 7 years and that team sucked so he had little incentive other than money to stay there We offered more and he hurt his knee like first day of practice or something and the rest was history. I think the big thing about him when he was signed was that he never got hurt.

Edit: Ok so they cut him for cap reasons.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:44 PM   #11
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This article states it was a cap move

Michael Eisen - Story - 3/10 Giants Release LB Mike Barrow - Giants.com
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:04 PM   #12
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

I like London Fletcher, I think he could be a solid at most 2 year solution for us at MLB, but his age really concerns me, and I can't but help to think that he would be another veteran fa redskins bust. I would much rather see us get Kawika Mitchell or Napoleon Harris at MLB, both are younger and won't command the contract that Fletcher will.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:31 PM   #13
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Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

I would be fine with either or both if they were a DE & DT respectively, that's the area of this defense that needa the most help. I like both players, and mainly because they have both proved to be durable, playing in 16 games each season since they've been in the league. However, a few months ago we all seemed to be in agreement that the time has come for us to turn our offseason attention to something other than high priced FA's. I don't want to go drunk on that concept again. I agree with 56fanatic, this team needs to get younger, and PLAY the youing players we get and not relegate them to the bench and ST's.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:19 PM   #14
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3 picks for the 6th overall??

LOL good luck with that one.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:53 PM   #15
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3 picks for the 6th overall??

LOL good luck with that one.

you definately can get a late 1st and 2nd. you could work in another pick, like 5th through 7th.
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