Skins expected to sign Fletcher

[MTK]

Scouts Inc. Profile:

Full Name: London Levi Fletcher-Baker
Born: May 19, 1975
Cleveland, OH
Height: 5-10
Weight: 245 lbs.

2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 78 | Key
Alert: B

Comment:
Fletcher has excellent experience, durability and toughness. He plays in regular and sub packages. He is competitive, active and hard-working. He handles all of the Bills' calls and adjustments within the box. He has good recognition skills and key-and-diagnose against the run and pass. He is an instinctive tackler who has sideline-to-sideline range. He can slide, stay square, avoid and play through trash in the box. He has a knack for timing up his blitzes and pressuring quarterbacks. He can open his hips and get good depth in underneath zones. He still has the speed to carry the vertical seam in cover 2. He has very good awareness and effectively communicates pattern recognition. He can match up with tight ends or backs over short areas in man-to-man. But Fletcher is undersized and lacks ideal power. He isn't a natural take-on player. He can get engulfed by bigger blockers and driven out of run lanes. He knows how to use his hands but lacks explosiveness in his stack-and-shed. He doesn't always protect his lower half when moving downhill.

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Scouts Inc. Profile:

Full Name: London Levi Fletcher-Baker
Born: May 19, 1975
Cleveland, OH
Height: 5-10
Weight: 245 lbs.

2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 78 | Key
Alert: B

Comment:
Fletcher has excellent experience, durability and toughness. He plays in regular and sub packages. He is competitive, active and hard-working. He handles all of the Bills' calls and adjustments within the box. He has good recognition skills and key-and-diagnose against the run and pass. He is an instinctive tackler who has sideline-to-sideline range. He can slide, stay square, avoid and play through trash in the box. He has a knack for timing up his blitzes and pressuring quarterbacks. He can open his hips and get good depth in underneath zones. He still has the speed to carry the vertical seam in cover 2. He has very good awareness and effectively communicates pattern recognition. He can match up with tight ends or backs over short areas in man-to-man. But Fletcher is undersized and lacks ideal power. He isn't a natural take-on player. He can get engulfed by bigger blockers and driven out of run lanes. He knows how to use his hands but lacks explosiveness in his stack-and-shed. He doesn't always protect his lower half when moving downhill.

This is the type of player that the Redskins need. A champion who does his job. They need a guy who tackles everything that moves. It is gravy that he knows the system as well as he does. And on the plays that he ties up a blocker or two, the Grim Reaper will deliver the kill shot.

As far as Marshall, I would like him to be the first OLB off the bench. Mongoose Washington is a no-brainer as long as the hip doesn't linger and with what they gave up for Rocky, he should be the most talented LB on the team.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

As far as Marshall, I would like him to be the first OLB off the bench. Mongoose Washington is a no-brainer as long as the hip doesn't linger and with what they gave up for Rocky, he should be the most talented LB on the team.

maybe it's just me but i don't understand why you would want to put marshall back on the bench. he's been the starting mlb the last two years and knows the system inside and out. it's for that reason that i believe he should move back to the outside and let rocky be the situational lb. marshall and rocky are probably pretty close physically but marshall has a huge advantage when it comes to knowing the system.

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

maybe it's just me but i don't understand why you would want to put marshall back on the bench. he's been the starting mlb the last two years and knows the system inside and out. it's for that reason that i believe he should move back to the outside and let rocky be the situational lb. marshall and rocky are probably pretty close physically but marshall has a huge advantage when it comes to knowing the system.

When did Marshall demonstrate that he knows the system inside and out? Pierce knew it inside and out, Lemar is no Pierce. They were decent in '05 but plain awful last year. As the QB of the defense he should receive a large portion of the blame for that.

I would put him on the bench because he isn't as talented as Washington or Rocky. It is as simple as that. To compare Rocky and Lemar phisically is definitely a stretch. Even though the Redskins may have tapped Rocky a little early, he was a stud in college and was definitely a second rounder. Lemar is a "no-name" who did well with his opportunity in '05 and regressed severely in '06.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

When did Marshall demonstrate that he knows the system inside and out? Pierce knew it inside and out, Lemar is no Pierce. They were decent in '05 but plain awful last year. As the QB of the defense he should receive a large portion of the blame for that.

I would put him on the bench because he isn't as talented as Washington or Rocky. It is as simple as that. To compare Rocky and Lemar phisically is definitely a stretch. Even though the Redskins may have tapped Rocky a little early, he was a stud in college and was definitely a second rounder. Lemar is a "no-name" who did well with his opportunity in '05 and regressed severely in '06.

i feel that he should know the defense inside and out because he's been a starter in it for the past 3 seasons and the qb of it the last 2. i agree with you that his play slipped last year but i feel that the entire defense slipped and i believe marshall should only be given the same amount of criticism as taylor or anyone else that played last year. i've heard poeple say that the only reason taylor played bad is because he was trying to do too much, well that may be true but the same could be said about marshall.
how can you say he's not as talented as rocky ? sure rocky was good in college but the jury is still out as to how good he'll be in the nfl, were as marshall has proven to be a very good outside lb and a pretty good mlb. if your going say that marshall regressed, would you also say that taylor regessed ?
if rocky beats marshall out during training camp then thats fine but i believe it is marshall's job until that happens.

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i feel that he should know the defense inside and out because he's been a starter in it for the past 3 seasons and the qb of it the last 2. i agree with you that his play slipped last year but i feel that the entire defense slipped and i believe marshall should only be given the same amount of criticism as taylor or anyone else that played last year. i've heard poeple say that the only reason taylor played bad is because he was trying to do too much, well that may be true but the same could be said about marshall.
how can you say he's not as talented as rocky ? sure rocky was good in college but the jury is still out as to how good he'll be in the nfl, were as marshall has proven to be a very good outside lb and a pretty good mlb. if your going say that marshall regressed, would you also say that taylor regessed ?
if rocky beats marshall out during training camp then thats fine but i believe it is marshall's job until that happens.

If 210 solo tackles over 3 years (2 in the middle) are evidence of knowing a system inside and out, we need a new system. Taylor has 205 as a safety with two less games. Ray Lewis had 155 solo tackles in one year!

What is the infatuation with Marshall? I like him and I pull for him but the guy is a mediocre middle and outside linebacker. He is a role player.

How do you laying the same blame on a Free Safety as your middle linebacker. Am I the only one who thinks that is crazy?

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

If 210 solo tackles over 3 years (2 in the middle) are evidence of knowing a system inside and out, we need a new system. Taylor has 205 as a safety with two less games. Ray Lewis had 155 solo tackles in one year!

What is the infatuation with Marshall? I like him and I pull for him but the guy is a mediocre middle and outside linebacker. He is a role player.

How do you laying the same blame on a Free Safety as your middle linebacker. Am I the only one who thinks that is crazy?

he's definately not as good as ray lewis in the middle. never said he was to begin with.

there is no infatuation, i just think he was a good mlb and a very good olb.

absolutely taylor gets just as much blame for the defensive struggles as marshall does. taylor had a bad year, compared to his first two.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

When did Marshall demonstrate that he knows the system inside and out? Pierce knew it inside and out, Lemar is no Pierce. They were decent in '05 but plain awful last year. As the QB of the defense he should receive a large portion of the blame for that.

So he also gets the credit for helping to field the 9th ranked defense in 2005? I'd say the 9th ranked defense is a little better than "decent."

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I would put him on the bench because he isn't as talented as Washington or Rocky. It is as simple as that. To compare Rocky and Lemar phisically is definitely a stretch. Even though the Redskins may have tapped Rocky a little early, he was a stud in college and was definitely a second rounder. Lemar is a "no-name" who did well with his opportunity in '05 and regressed severely in '06.

Marshall certainly isn't as good as Washington, but I have no idea how anyone can compare Marshall to Rocky. In fact, if anything, Rocky's total absence from the field until the last two games of the season seem to indicate that Marshall is (for now) the better player. Moreover, Rocky wasn't able to beat Warrick Holdman (who isn't exactly Pro-Bowl material) at a position that is not nearly as challenging as the MLB spot. And, does it really matter where someone was drafted in determining how good they really are in the Pros (as opposed to how good they were projected to be)?

Marshall was also playing on a bum ankle for nearly the entire season. He sat out most practices and was doped up half the time to deal with the pain. I hate to make excuses for the guy, but I think Marshall is a good player who doesn't deserve to get a substantial part of the blame for the defense's woes in 2006.

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

So he also gets the credit for helping to field the 9th ranked defense in 2005? I'd say the 9th ranked defense is a little better than "decent."



Marshall certainly isn't as good as Washington, but I have no idea how anyone can compare Marshall to Rocky. In fact, if anything, Rocky's total absence from the field until the last two games of the season seem to indicate that Marshall is (for now) the better player. Moreover, Rocky wasn't able to beat Warrick Holdman (who isn't exactly Pro-Bowl material) at a position that is not nearly as challenging as the MLB spot. And, does it really matter where someone was drafted in determining how good they really are in the Pros (as opposed to how good they were projected to be)?

Marshall was also playing on a bum ankle for nearly the entire season. He sat out most practices and was doped up half the time to deal with the pain. I hate to make excuses for the guy, but I think Marshall is a good player who doesn't deserve to get a substantial part of the blame for the defense's woes in 2006.

Either Rocky is a complete bust or our coaches were promoting their agenda again last year (I believe and pray that it is the latter.

I guess we will see who the better player is in the pre-season, won't we.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Either Rocky is a complete bust or our coaches were promoting their agenda again last year (I believe and pray that it is the latter. I guess we will see who the better player is in the pre-season, won't we.

I don't think Rocky is a complete bust or that the coaches were promoting their agenda (unless promoting their agenda consists of putting the best players on the field). As of last season, Marshall was probably the better player. Everything that I heard of Rocky is that he is very physically gifted, but did not totally understand the system. Rocky might be the better player next season, but his lack of any significant time on defense strongly suggests that he was not last season.

I'm not saying that Marshall is some Pro-Bowl MLB stud, but I don't think he's as bad as you are saying (i.e., that he is a "role player"). Again, I'm not sure how you can honestly attribute our woes on defense last season to Marshall and call him a role player, and simultaneously give him no credit for the defense's play in 2005.