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[Daseal]

They also fluctuate every draft. Teams can wait in a draft like this and save themselves picks. Unless Calvin Johnson drops to us, I don't see a player that's unpassable.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Daseal

They also fluctuate every draft. Teams can wait in a draft like this and save themselves picks. Unless Calvin Johnson drops to us, I don't see a player that's unpassable.

I'd pass on him as Washington.

IMO, the only unpassible player is Joe Thomas. If he's there at 6 (no chance, Detroit and Arizona won't both pass on him) then I think we should select him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'd pass on him as Washington.

IMO, the only unpassible player is Joe Thomas. If he's there at 6 (no chance, Detroit and Arizona won't both pass on him) then I think we should select him.

now why would we do that

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'd pass on him as Washington.

IMO, the only unpassible player is Joe Thomas. If he's there at 6 (no chance, Detroit and Arizona won't both pass on him) then I think we should select him.

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

amen to that

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

Might convert him to a guard. Might wait a year and make sure that Samuels and particularly Jansen hold up injury-wise. Either way, we get the best available player in the draft and some eventually necessary youth on the o line.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Might convert him to a guard. Might wait a year and make sure that Samuels and particularly Jansen hold up injury-wise. Either way, we get the best available player in the draft and some eventually necessary youth on the o line.

um the best player in the draft is calvin johnson not joe thomas

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

um the best player in the draft is calvin johnson not joe thomas

Wrong. It's Joe Thomas.

Actually, the term "best" is always opinional. So I guess I'm no more right then you are. Bummer.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wrong. It's Joe Thomas.

Actually, the term "best" is always opinional. So I guess I'm no more right then you are. Bummer.

What's interesting about this little debate is that title should mean the player you're most confident will have the best nfl career.
Do the experts ever pick an O linemen to fit that? seems not, maybe when Mandarich came out.
WRs are usually pretty tough to predict success on, whereas OTs not as much. But it seems the more hype for the O line prospect the more disappointment; Mandarich & Gallery were the 2 biggest I can recall.
I would have to go w/CJ as the best prospect in the draft. He's got all the physical & mental traits, plus he produced a lot in college w/a marginal qb & offense. If the guy can't make it big, he probably has some other issues, but he seems as close to a sure thing as any wideout I can remember (including Desmond Howard & Michael Westbrook!).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

I don't see that happpening either.

[JoeRedskin]

With Minnesota, Houston and Miami immediately picking after us, Quinn likely still on the board, and all three in need of a QB - there may be a bit of a bidding war for a slightly earlier spot. BUT, those teams could, in turn, play us against Arizona since they seem to be targeting the same three players we are and wouldn't likely lose the opportunity to draft one of them by doing the trade.

Of course, this assumes that those three teams think Quinn is worth two picks in this year's draft. Who knows - I doubt it.

[sportscurmudgeon]

I thought Joe Thomas was the second coming of Orlando Pace - - - until I saw the Florida/Ohio State game.

Whenever I saw Thomas, he dominated Big Ten defenders - and I mean he dominated them in the games I saw. Then I saw Big Ten defenders and offensive lineman get clowned by Florida and it made me wonder if Joe Thomas had played against "the best" in terms of collegiate athletic competition.

In the NFL, athleticism is a given for DEs and OLBs. So, is Thomas up to handling all of that or does he look really good only because he played against second-tier defenders in terms of athletic ability? Before anyone jerks their knee out of joint telling me how great the Big Ten is, I don't see any of the Big Ten DEs up there as "can't miss/impact players from Day One" this year... So, just whom did Joe Thomas protect his QB from???

If Thomas really is as good as he looked, then whoever gets him will have another Orlando Pace. Don't tell me that the Skins don't need that; Pace is twice as good as any OT the Skins have had since Joe Jacoby and Jim Lachey hung up their jockstraps.

But if Thomas looks a whole lot better than he really is ...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I thought Joe Thomas was the second coming of Orlando Pace - - - until I saw the Florida/Ohio State game.

Whenever I saw Thomas, he dominated Big Ten defenders - and I mean he dominated them in the games I saw. Then I saw Big Ten defenders and offensive lineman get clowned by Florida and it made me wonder if Joe Thomas had played against "the best" in terms of collegiate athletic competition.

In the NFL, athleticism is a given for DEs and OLBs. So, is Thomas up to handling all of that or does he look really good only because he played against second-tier defenders in terms of athletic ability? Before anyone jerks their knee out of joint telling me how great the Big Ten is, I don't see any of the Big Ten DEs up there as "can't miss/impact players from Day One" this year... So, just whom did Joe Thomas protect his QB from???

If Thomas really is as good as he looked, then whoever gets him will have another Orlando Pace. Don't tell me that the Skins don't need that; Pace is twice as good as any OT the Skins have had since Joe Jacoby and Jim Lachey hung up their jockstraps.

But if Thomas looks a whole lot better than he really is ...

Additionally, we don't know how much longer we are going to be able to rely on Jansen. I didn't think giving him a new deal was the smartest thing given the circumstances.

I'm not sure theres a team in the league whos line is so good that they would find Thomas riding the bench.