Yet Another #$(&^ing Ramsey Thread...Gotta Keep Up With the #$(&^#ing Brunell Threads

[70Chip]

Yeah,the word on Patrick was that he wasn't real bright. Of course, that was the word on Shuler too - now he's in the congress, which sort of reinforces the point. Maybe Ramsey could go into politics.

Now let's see what Offiss has to say:

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Yeah,the word on Patrick was that he wasn't real bright. Of course, that was the word on Shuler too - now he's in the congress, which sort of reinforces the point. Maybe Ramsey could go into politics.

Now let's see what Offiss has to say:

I could see a Shuler/Ramsey ticket in the future. :cheeky-sm

[offiss]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Yeah,the word on Patrick was that he wasn't real bright. Of course, that was the word on Shuler too - now he's in the congress, which sort of reinforces the point. Maybe Ramsey could go into politics.

Now let's see what Offiss has to say:

You wanted it you got it, first off Ramsey has more brains in his little toe than Campbell or Brunell will ever know.

My whole contention about Ramsey has been he was never given any kind of a fair shake by Gibbs and I still stand by that, can anyone truely say we are better off right now with Brunell than had we stuck with Ramsey? I don't know how you could? Even if Ramsey was a backup his value would be far greater than Brunell, and cost a lot less money. But knowbody ever wants to allow a player to grow, especially at QB, Ramsey had how many starts? Not enough for 1 full season, I would bring him back in a heartbeat he would be great ins. for Campbell.

I wonder how many of you gave up on Betts? I know I wasen't one of them, I said all along he was a better between the tackles runner than Portis, he hit's the hole harder, and faster than Portis and proved it last season, but he was a piece of garbage until the second half of last season, now we have guys arguing to keep him here unless someone offers a 1st rd pick, funny Gibbs couldn't see Betts talent when he arrived he just ran out and traded for Portis. Yes Betts had health issues but that can't be predicted his talent as a runner was what we had to go on and he's very talented.

I do have to ask what was so great about Campbell last season? Did he do something above average, or was he pretty much below average, I for one was glad to see him in there, but I also have been stareing at Brunell for 3 years, that's kind of like watching some old lady on a treadmill for 3 hours every sunday for 3 years only to have someone take you to the kentucky derby, your horse may come in last but it's a lot more fun to watch.

To put it plain and simple I am not backing off Ramsey I still feel he will succeed it's just a matter of time.

On a lesser note how good is Drew Brees right now? You know the QB who was on the verge of being released after 3 years, the big time bust? He seemed to become a pretty good QB, how many times do we here a QB needs at least 3 years of playing time to really blossom? Well Ramsey was never afforded that opportunity by Gibbs.

And while we are bashing people for performance let's throw one more into the ring who deserves the biggest slam of all for all around performance, that honor goes to one JOE GIBBS! Kudos JG he's a genious at keeping us in the lottery to bad we only have 1 pick, and he will probably screw that up as well.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by offiss

I do have to ask what was so great about Campbell last season? Did he do something above average, or was he pretty much below average[.]

In addition to an arm just as good as Ramsey's, I saw some incredible athleticism and instinct. I don't remember the game but we were on the 5 yard line or so, JC got flat out hit and still makes the throw for a TD. Several times at the home games, I saw him "feel" the open spot where a blitzer had come from and hit the hot read in that area. Again, I don't remember the specific game, but with a blitzer coming, JC lofted a nice 5-yard touch pass to a receiver who then turned it into a solid gain. Nice enough in itself, but, what made it really incredible, was that the play was clearly designed to go to the opposite side of the field - so JC: 1) felt the backside blitz; 2) avoided it long enough to turn and face the opposite direction; 3) tossed a sweet pass over the arms of the blitzer who was a yard or two away and closing fast.

I remember Ramsey making some nice throws and good plays, but they were always the ones accomplished by arm strength or toughness - not instinct.

In one-half of a season, I saw more athleticism and, more importantly, more football instinct from JC than I saw in PR's entire time with the Skins.

Ramsey may very well be much smarter than JC, but I think it is pretty clear that when it comes to having a feel for the game, JC is way beyond PR.