Tell me about Derrick Dockery - new Buffalo Bill

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Questfor31

Can anyone tell me about offensive guard Derrick Dockery that the Buffalo Bills just paid $49 million over seven years? In the Buffalo media they claim this guy is a stud, that Dockery was a large part of the Redskins rushing success last season. Is this guy really a stud? Is he overrated? Is he the superb run blocker that he is billed to be in the Buffalo press? Would you have preferred that he resigned with the Redskins?

I'm pretty much going to echo what others had to say about Dock. He's a good guy, an above-average guard, and you will like him. I read the Bills' press release and, contrary to its claims, he's not the best in pass protection, but he's a good road-grader. He doesn't have as much power as you would expect for a guy his size (he could be bullied by MLBs he was supposed to block on occasion), but he's still pretty powerful.

I don't think he's worth close to what you guys paid, but maybe I'm thinking in terms of 2006 cap dollars. The market is all screwy right now, so it's hard to assess whether you got him at a number above market-price, or way above market-price. Best of luck next season.

[That Guy]

he was awfully lazy until his contract year. he was NO BETTER than our 3rd best offensive linemen last year, and that's an insane contract for his production.

I would have liked to keep him for continuity, but i don't think he's irreplaceable by any means. He's no where close to hutchinson.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he was awfully lazy until last year. he was NO BETTER than our 3rd offensive linemen last year, and that's an insane contract for his production.

I would have liked to keep him for continuity, but i don't think he's irreplaceable by any means. He's no where close to hutchinson.

In all fairness, scouts said that he would be a project when we drafted him. Most thought that he had the potential to be dominant but would take several years to develop. Maybe they were right and, with Buges' guidance, he's just now hitting his stride.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

In all fairness, scouts said that he would be a project when we drafted him. Most thought that he had the potential to be dominant but would take several years to develop. Maybe they were right and, with Buges' guidance, he's just now hitting his stride.

that's an awfully big risk to bet 49$mill on.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by That Guy

that's an awfully big risk to bet 49$mill on.

The Redskins have taken that risk a few time and some have payed off other no so much! As for Dock I give him around 3 years before we all say I told you so when his name comes up on the cut list!

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he was awfully lazy until his contract year. he was NO BETTER than our 3rd best offensive linemen last year, and that's an insane contract for his production.

I would have liked to keep him for continuity, but i don't think he's irreplaceable by any means. He's no where close to hutchinson.

I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.

Thrid best???? So I looked at a few games from this year. No not the third best!! He was on the ground a lot and missed to many blocks. For being a 4 year vet to many mistakes. I really think he is as good as he will get!

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.

Good point on your ranking. I think most people here put Jansen above Dockery because they instinctively believe Jansen is a Grade A offensive linemen. In reality, his performance has slipped quite a bit over the past two years.

[Dirtbag59]

The truth is Dockery needs Coach Bugel to continue his development. I predict his technique will suffer next year but his intensity will increase due to his desire to prove himself worthy of his contract. Then after that he'll probably regres.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Good point on your ranking. I think most people here put Jansen above Dockery because they instinctively believe Jansen is a Grade A offensive linemen. In reality, his performance has slipped quite a bit over the past two years.

I still put jansen over Dock... I put Jansen over Samuels... The whole left side of our line is the weakest and Thomas and Jansen get all the flack while Dock gets 7 mil/yr and Samuels goes to the pro bowl???

WTF???

[backrow]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.

70Chip, great points on your ranking. Samuels and Rabach had to over-compensate for Doc, and as you state, Rabach is clearly the 5th best b/c of all of his false starts. Doc & Jansen could have flipped places, but still, very good assessment. I agree, Doc is not worth paying a lot for that muffler! Jansen has slid considerably since his surgery a couple of years ago. His mind is willing, but his legs and feet aren't cooperating. He will be terrific as a smooth TV presence when he retires.

[Luxorreb]

I was hoping to keep Dock around, but HELL NO at those prices. Joe Gibbs is building a championship team here and I think people like Doc don't understand things like that. Unfortunately for him he's headed to Buffalo.

"I don't choke like the Buffalo BIlls"
-ICE CUBE

[That Guy]

wade is a FA, no guarantee he'll be back (unless i missed something recent). he's an NFL starter we were lucky to get last year.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Questfor31

Can anyone tell me about offensive guard Derrick Dockery that the Buffalo Bills just paid $49 million over seven years? In the Buffalo media they claim this guy is a stud, that Dockery was a large part of the Redskins rushing success last season. Is this guy really a stud? Is he overrated? Is he the superb run blocker that he is billed to be in the Buffalo press? Would you have preferred that he resigned with the Redskins?

I will give it to you straight He weighs 340 but plays like he's 240, one other problem he can't block in space unless your actually dumb enough to run into him. What you signed is a player with the physical measurables you look for in a guard but he plays like a statue, you gave a big contract to nothing more than a big lineman, watch him closely when he plays you will be shaking your head at this contract after one year.

[djnemo65]

We have been sayng for weeks around here that he is overrated and that anyone who signs him is a sucker.