Redskins turned down Al Wilson!! plus great offer

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

Yeah, pete, but if he waits until his contract year to decide to play then F 'em, which is how I felt about dock all of last year...

Sometime it takes a little longer for player to get to where they need to be. Rogers was drafted in 05 so this should be a break out season. He played hurt most of last season and that didn't help. I can remember when Samuels looked so so! But he came around. Let's face it the D was bad all year long and Rogers wasn't the only guy not doing his job.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

Sometime it takes a little longer for player to get to where they need to be. Rogers was drafted in 05 so this should be a break out season. He played hurt most of last season and that didn't help. I can remember when Samuels looked so so! But he came around. Let's face it the D was bad all year long and Rogers wasn't the only guy not doing his job.

Definitely. I haven't looked at historical stats, but my gut feeling is that CBs need a couple years to adjust to the NFL. There aren't many that come out and dominate from the very beginning. If Rogers has the talent he was drafted for, then he is due for a breakout season.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Definitely. I haven't looked at historical stats, but my gut feeling is that CBs need a couple years to adjust to the NFL. There aren't many that come out and dominate from the very beginning. If Rogers has the talent he was drafted for, then he is due for a breakout season.

Sanders, Bailey, Hall, and others have done quite well in their rookie seasons. Granted, those guys are among the best corners in the league, but the 9th overall pick should produce an immediate impact. I haven't give up on Rogers by any means, but I'm losing faith fast.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Sanders, Bailey, Hall, and others have done quite well in their rookie seasons. Granted, those guys are among the best corners in the league, but the 9th overall pick should produce an immediate impact. I haven't give up on Rogers by any means, but I'm losing faith fast.

Well, on the upside, at least he doesn't go shoot people at strip clubs a la another illustrious cornerback taken in the Top 10 that year. Actually, none of those guys (Pac Man, Antrel Rolle, or Rogers) has done a whole lot to distinguish themselves. I guess Pac Man is the best, but his off-field stuff really hurts him. Wouldn't it be nice to have Shawn Merriman (12th pick that year I think) instead of Carlos? I guess you could say he is better suited for the 3-4, but I wouldn't mind to see him coming off the edge in a Skins uni.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Actually, none of those guys (Pac Man, Antrel Rolle, or Rogers) has done a whole lot to distinguish themselves.

Yep. I think the draft was kinda weak at CB that year. And, we all knew we weren't getting another Champ.

I am still hopeful that Rogers will breakout. Another thing to think of is that maybe Williams' scheme is something that takes more time for a CB to adjust to, than other schemes. From what I understand, he asks a lot from his CBs.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Yep. I think the draft was kinda weak at CB that year. And, we all knew we weren't getting another Champ.

I am still hopeful that Rogers will breakout. Another thing to think of is that maybe Williams' scheme is something that takes more time for a CB to adjust to, than other schemes. From what I understand, he asks a lot from his CBs.

Uhhh...I never thought he was Champ, but I thought he was a lot better than he has played.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Uhhh...I never thought he was Champ, but I thought he was a lot better than he has played.

My point is: he still might be a lot better than he has played.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

If we can get their 1st rounder and use it on Okoye (who has a ton of upside) and then also recieve their 2nd, 3rd, a possible conditional pick, and Bly for just our 6th, and then can trade Springs for a second round pick & 4th-6th round pick, they've gotta make those deals. Not only because the team doesn't have a good history recently other than Taylor to an extent with top 15 picks, and we have a lot of position that could use some youth injected into them. Not to mention also the vast difference in the cap space & signing bonus a player taken at Denver's spot would be from the player the skins r currently in position to take. I mean a potential 6 picks and a pretty darn good cb for just one pick with a high price tag and a player that lately has come off as not really wanting to be around here, that's almost a no brainer.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

If we can get their 1st rounder and use it on Okoye (who has a ton of upside) and then also recieve their 2nd, 3rd, a possible conditional pick, and Bly for just our 6th, and then can trade Springs for a second round pick & 4th-6th round pick, they've gotta make those deals. Not only because the team doesn't have a good history recently other than Taylor to an extent with top 15 picks, and we have a lot of position that could use some youth injected into them. Not to mention also the vast difference in the cap space & signing bonus a player taken at Denver's spot would be from the player the skins r currently in position to take. I mean a potential 6 picks and a pretty darn good cb for just one pick with a high price tag and a player that lately has come off as not really wanting to be around here, that's almost a no brainer.

you'd have to waste the 2nd moving up in the first if you want okoye. he won't make it to 21.