Stallworth to the Pats!

[That Guy]

i'd take that bet and go with the over. looks like 10-12 wins easily.

with no WRs to speak of brady was still putting up decent numbers. they just got two starters which are both HUGE upgrades, and a great blocking TE in brady (to go with receiving TE ben watson).

on defense they just got another super smart/versatile LB in AD, they still have two draft picks in the first round, and no one's really left the team.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i'd take that bet and go with the over. looks like 10-12 wins easily.

with no WRs to speak of brady was still putting up decent numbers. they just got two starters which are both HUGE upgrades, and a great blocking TE in brady (to go with receiving TE ben watson).

on defense they just got another super smart/versatile LB in AD, they still have two draft picks in the first round, and no one's really left the team.

On paper, it seems like that, but so did we last year & in 2000.
No one left aside from Graham this year, but last year a few did. They'll likely make some cuts of note post 6/1 or during camp, they're gonna have to make some room for their fa's & draft picks. I think this could be more of a transitional year for them. Can Bellicheck keep them on track? It'll be harder than it appears now, that's just a hunch as I said, I know they've won in the past when it sure seemed the odds were against them.

The division is still fairly weak, good we get them this year.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

On paper, it seems like that, but so did we last year & in 2000.
No one left aside from Graham this year, but last year a few did. They'll likely make some cuts of note post 6/1 or during camp, they're gonna have to make some room for their fa's & draft picks. I think this could be more of a transitional year for them. Can Bellicheck keep them on track? It'll be harder than it appears now, that's just a hunch as I said, I know they've won in the past when it sure seemed the odds were against them.

The division is still fairly weak, good we get them this year.

they don't have to make cuts, they're under the cap. and unlike the skins of 2000 or 2006, they have tom brady.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by That Guy

they don't have to make cuts, they're under the cap. and unlike the skins of 2000 or 2006, they have tom brady.

They may not have to make cuts from a cap standpoint, but from a roster standpoint they've got to make some room for their new acquisitions. Maybe it will only be depth guys, but they do have some vets that are nearing the end.

Don't get me wrong, all reasonable predictions would be that this team is a contender. They're certainly the best in their division, I think the Jets over achieved, Miami has issues at the qb position & a new coach, and the Bills just lost some quality players. I just have a feeling that this will be a transitional year for them & may decide how they proceed w/some of their vets. An off year for them is far better than what most teams hope for. I just don't see them contending for another super bowl and I wouldn't be surprised if they have an up & down year that ends 9-7 or 8-8.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

.....Don't get me wrong, all reasonable predictions would be that this team is a contender. They're certainly the best in their division, I think the Jets over achieved, Miami has issues at the qb position & a new coach, and the Bills just lost some quality players. I just have a feeling that this will be a transitional year for them & may decide how they proceed w/some of their vets. An off year for them is far better than what most teams hope for. I just don't see them contending for another super bowl and I wouldn't be surprised if they have an up & down year that ends 9-7 or 8-8....

And I suppose you think the Skins will be 12-4? LOL
The Pats now have the most complete team in the NFL. Even after all of thier great signings New England's still got the 13th-most cap room left, $7.7 million and two 1st round draft picks. They are very well managed.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

And I suppose you think the Skins will be 12-4? LOL
The Pats now have the most complete team in the NFL. Even after all of thier great signings New England's still got the 13th-most cap room left, $7.7 million and two 1st round draft picks. They are very well managed.

They just added Kelley Washington today, completely revmaping their WR corps yet again. Anyone else remember the mid 80's through the 90s when the Patriots were a wretched organization...yet they still made 2 Super Bowls back then too

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They just added Kelley Washington today, completely revmaping their WR corps yet again. Anyone else remember the mid 80's through the 90s when the Patriots were a wretched organization...yet they still made 2 Super Bowls back then too

I am amazed to hear that players are now taking less money to play for the Pats because they are a top Sb contender. According to CNN.SI "The Titans offered Stallworth more guaranteed money and more average per year than New England did, but the Patriots got him because they're a better team with a better quarterback right now."
And now they signed a very fast WR Washington with a $300,000 signing bonus. Cheap. You know you are doing it right when player will take less money to play for you. That is the true sign of a winning team.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

super smart.

joe gibbs favorite words to describe someone.