Mort on the Portis trade rumors

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Joe it is not worth arguing. He clearly is misguided.

How diplomatic.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

How diplomatic.

I am nothing if not diplomatic.

I have also been where you are and you are just going to end up wanting to punch your monitor. Sometimes people won't objectively listen. They believe what they believe no matter what. They can be convinced that 2+2=5 in the face of incontravertable evidence that it in fact equals 4.

[stu_nna]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I am nothing if not diplomatic.

I have also been where you are and you are just going to end up wanting to punch your monitor. Sometimes people won't objectively listen. They believe what they believe no matter what. They can be convinced that 2+2=5 in the face of incontravertable evidence that it in fact equals 4.

you must have me seriously mistaken. I've listen and read everyone's response to my view on Clinton. I've also considered could his numbers be replaced with another player. He is not a bad back, but we have a history of releasing or trading players who speak out against the machine to much. That doesn't make me insane, stupid or any other name that people can think of for lack of a better way to express themselves.
The circumstances when he says he goes to one coach for the running plays, and another for the passing plays, and airs out dirty laundry out to the public is what gets me. Not his toughness, or his numbers and production. These things have to balance out. 2+2=4, i agree, so i haven't fallen into these numbers arguements.
If 50% of the backs in this leauge can get 1000-1300 yards in a season then the bar has been raised. So have my expectations...

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by stu_nna

you must have me seriously mistaken. I've listen and read everyone's response to my view on Clinton. I've also considered could his numbers be replaced with another player. He is not a bad back, but we have a history of releasing or trading players who speak out against the machine to much. That doesn't make me insane, stupid or any other name that people can think of for lack of a better way to express themselves.
The circumstances when he says he goes to one coach for the running plays, and another for the passing plays, and airs out dirty laundry out to the public is what gets me. Not his toughness, or his numbers and production. These things have to balance out. 2+2=4, i agree, so i haven't fallen into these numbers arguements.
If 50% of the backs in this leauge can get 1000-1300 yards in a season then the bar has been raised. So have my expectations...

Seems like you think he talks too much! Its all about his performance on the field. Not a bad back? He's a great back! Just needs to stay healthy or we're not going to be as explosive. CP is the single season rushing leader for the Washinton Redskins, all time......

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by stu_nna

you must have me seriously mistaken. I've listen and read everyone's response to my view on Clinton. I've also considered could his numbers be replaced with another player. He is not a bad back, but we have a history of releasing or trading players who speak out against the machine to much. That doesn't make me insane, stupid or any other name that people can think of for lack of a better way to express themselves.
The circumstances when he says he goes to one coach for the running plays, and another for the passing plays, and airs out dirty laundry out to the public is what gets me. Not his toughness, or his numbers and production. These things have to balance out. 2+2=4, i agree, so i haven't fallen into these numbers arguements.
If 50% of the backs in this leauge can get 1000-1300 yards in a season then the bar has been raised. So have my expectations...

1) Let me clarify, the "stupid" and "inane" remarks were commentary on the logic and substance of the respective posts. They were not an attempt to pass judgement on your intelligence or lack thereof.

2) Please tell me which players we have released or traded for "speak[ing] out against the machine too much"?

3) You have high expectations of a RB - well, other than last year, CP has consistently made or exceeded the standards you cite for an elite back (I would suggest that 50% of the backs do NOT exceed 1200 yards/year. Maybe 50% exceed 1000 yards, but 1200 is not nearly that common).

3) I just don't understand your point - CP's past production for us is not relevant, yet his past actions off the field are? Past actions that many see as taking a lead and being a voice for the players.