Archuleta traded to Bears for 6th round pick

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

That may not be the worst idea. There is an absolute stud from LSU that should be on the board at # 6. Best safety since ST on the board.

Bears also picked up AA's 5 million guaranteed money he was due this year along with the 6th round pick. Bears let Jones go and now do this? They are making some weird moves.....

I WAS WRONG ON THIS ONE GUYS!!

AA is history and time to finally move on.

Where does it say that the bears picked up AA's 5 million guaranteed money? I would love that and would think that this is the move of the year if the Bears actually did that.

Also, is your name john daly, if so, that is sooooo cool.


Edit-sorry for the double post, i just pressed back instead of edit when i tried to edit.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Where does it say that the bears picked up AA's 5 million guaranteed money? I would love that and would think that this is the move of the year if the Bears actually did that.

Also, is your name john daly, if so, that is sooooo cool.


Edit-sorry for the double post, i just pressed back instead of edit when i tried to edit.

Somebody else posted it (Schneed, I think), but I think it goes something like this:

We traded AA before his bonus was due. When a player is traded, so is his salary/bonus.

[#56fanatic]

you know I am glad to get his contract off the books after next season, but I dont understand why every one is so RA RA? It just speaks volumes in the ways of this front office. It has been very, very questionable the last 4 years. we go on and on all the time about this. We let a former 1st round pick, who we made the highest paid safety in league history, go for a 6th round pick? How bad is that. yeah yeah, preach all you want about how we dont have to pay him, but we do still have to pay him 4+ million in dead cap space. we lead the league in that every single year. GW has to be held accountable for this crap. Bailey gone, smoot gone(back now) pierce gone, clark gone, Arrington gone, mis steps with Arch, Barrow, Wright, Rumph. who is letting this guy pick these players. Everyone in the league knew Arch was not going to fit here, but GW did. Carter has yet to earn the 10mil signing bonus 30+million contract. he played well in 3, 4 games? He may turn out to be ok, but come on. its just another move and big contract that hasn't worked out. there has to be some kind of change soon if this organization is going to put up another big silver trophy at Redskin park.

[irish]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

you know I am glad to get his contract off the books after next season, but I dont understand why every one is so RA RA? It just speaks volumes in the ways of this front office. It has been very, very questionable the last 4 years. we go on and on all the time about this. We let a former 1st round pick, who we made the highest paid safety in league history, go for a 6th round pick? How bad is that. yeah yeah, preach all you want about how we dont have to pay him, but we do still have to pay him 4+ million in dead cap space. we lead the league in that every single year. GW has to be held accountable for this crap. Bailey gone, smoot gone(back now) pierce gone, clark gone, Arrington gone, mis steps with Arch, Barrow, Wright, Rumph. who is letting this guy pick these players. Everyone in the league knew Arch was not going to fit here, but GW did. Carter has yet to earn the 10mil signing bonus 30+million contract. he played well in 3, 4 games? He may turn out to be ok, but come on. its just another move and big contract that hasn't worked out. there has to be some kind of change soon if this organization is going to put up another big silver trophy at Redskin park.

I agree. One thing I have noticed with the redskins is that for some reason they seem to view other teams players as better/more valuable than their own.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree. One thing I have noticed with the redskins is that for some reason they seem to view other teams players as better/more valuable than their own.

I don't think Arch was ever "ours" really. And secondly, do you really still feel that way after the moves we've made these past few months?

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think Arch was ever "ours" really. And secondly, do you really still feel that way after the moves we've made these past few months?

I agree that AA was never "ours" but he was brought in here becuase of some of the other D players that were "ours" were sent packing and since he was from somewhere else he's worth signing.

I think so even more.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree that AA was never "ours" but he was brought in here becuase of some of the other D players that were "ours" were sent packing and since he was from somewhere else he's worth signing.

I think so even more.

You think so even more even after all the re-signings?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think Arch was ever "ours" really. And secondly, do you really still feel that way after the moves we've made these past few months?

Arch was "ours" when we gave more money the NFL has ever seen given to a safety. You certainly dont give a guy that kind of money and say he may or may not work out.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

you know I am glad to get his contract off the books after next season, but I dont understand why every one is so RA RA? It just speaks volumes in the ways of this front office. It has been very, very questionable the last 4 years. we go on and on all the time about this. We let a former 1st round pick, who we made the highest paid safety in league history, go for a 6th round pick? How bad is that. yeah yeah, preach all you want about how we dont have to pay him, but we do still have to pay him 4+ million in dead cap space. we lead the league in that every single year. GW has to be held accountable for this crap. Bailey gone, smoot gone(back now) pierce gone, clark gone, Arrington gone, mis steps with Arch, Barrow, Wright, Rumph. who is letting this guy pick these players. Everyone in the league knew Arch was not going to fit here, but GW did. Carter has yet to earn the 10mil signing bonus 30+million contract. he played well in 3, 4 games? He may turn out to be ok, but come on. its just another move and big contract that hasn't worked out. there has to be some kind of change soon if this organization is going to put up another big silver trophy at Redskin park.

I will give you Clark but I would have goen with Chris Hope not Arch in last year free agent pool! Pierce is the big one here and should have never let him get away! As for Barrow a total miss just as Arrington was for the Giants so that is a wash. Arrington when he left the Skins had nothing left in the tank! For Carter to pay off we will need another big time DE like when we had C.Mann and D.Manley! I just wish we could draft Anderson and get Ian Scott at DT in free agency. But we have little in draft picks and cap room!

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

I will give you Clark but I would have goen with Chris Hope not Arch in last year free agent pool! Pierce is the big one here and should have never let him get away! As for Barrow a total miss just as Arrington was for the Giants so that is a wash. Arrington when he left the Skins had nothing left in the tank! For Carter to pay off we will need another big time DE like when we had C.Mann and D.Manley! I just wish we could draft Anderson and get Ian Scott at DT in free agency. But we have little in draft picks and cap room!

I dont see how its a wash. We let someone go who is a probowler, replaced him with a guy that never saw the field, then replaced him with a guy who was / is out of position and now had to overpay for a 32 mlb. its not wash. LaVar didn't play middle. fact is we dont pay our own, but have no problems throwing millions at other teams players.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont see how its a wash. We let someone go who is a probowler, replaced him with a guy that never saw the field, then replaced him with a guy who was / is out of position and now had to overpay for a 32 mlb. its not wash. LaVar didn't play middle. fact is we dont pay our own, but have no problems throwing millions at other teams players.

Who are you talking about?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who are you talking about?

Pierce. we let him go, tried to replace him with a washed up Barrow, pulled Marshall out of position, then overpaid for Fletcher. We could have wrapped up one of our own players (pierce) for less than what it is costing us with Fletcher. Now we have a probowl LB playing against us twice a year. A very good thinking, intense, tackling machine.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont see how its a wash. We let someone go who is a probowler, replaced him with a guy that never saw the field, then replaced him with a guy who was / is out of position and now had to overpay for a 32 mlb. its not wash. LaVar didn't play middle. fact is we dont pay our own, but have no problems throwing millions at other teams players.

Money it wasn't a wash but Arrington going we got money back! So I guess it was a wash after all because when he left he WAS WASHED UP !!!!

[sportscurmudgeon]

Archuletta should do better in Chicago than he did here in Washington not because of the coaching but because of the system. He'll get to play zone a lot more there and - assuming that Briggs actually does come back and play in Chicago - he'll have far more competent linebacking in front of him to take care of business in that part of the field without his "intervention".

Archuletta never was a cover guy - - even coming out of college. The biggest mistake came from whomever it was in the FO or coaching staff or both who thought he could work out here in a system that liked to play man coverage more than once in a while. Those are the folks at whom your wrath should be aimed. Archuletta simply signed a piece of paper that guaranteed him more money than he ever thought he was going to be offered. And then he played about the way he should have been expected to play in this system.

Someone mentioned this earlier in the thread but let me reiterate it here. Archuletta was a bad free-agent move but it is nowhere near as bad as the Scott Mitchell signing in Detroit was. That was THE worst of all time...

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Where does it say that the bears picked up AA's 5 million guaranteed money? I would love that and would think that this is the move of the year if the Bears actually did that.

Also, is your name john daly, if so, that is sooooo cool.


Edit-sorry for the double post, i just pressed back instead of edit when i tried to edit.

Per La Canfora in the Washington Post:

The Redskins and Archuleta agreed to postpone his original deadline of March 12 to receive his bonus payment in order to facilitate a trade, and the Bears, whose coach, Lovie Smith, has a strong relationship with the safety from their time together in St. Louis, ultimately agreed to pick up that $5 million payment as part of the deal, sources said, beating today's new deadline for the option.
Archuleta will get a new contract with Chicago, while the Redskins are expected to land just a sixth-round pick as compensation for a player who was drafted 20th overall in 2001. Had the Redskins executed the option and kept Archuleta as a reserve (behind starters Pierson Prioleau and Sean Taylor), he would have cost them $2.4 million against the salary cap; by dealing him, he likely will count $4 million in dead cap space, pending any other possible contract restructurings, but will be off the team's books after 2007.

washingtonpost.com