Falcons Trade Matt Schaub to Houston

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Nice. The Falcons may dread the day they let this kid go.

On another note: If CJ is there at 6, I guarantee the Skins take him and keep him.

nothing personal, but there is no way the skins want anything to do with Johnson, other then trading him. the simple fact is we have much greater needs then a wide out. regardless of how good anyone thinks he will be. i don't know why anyone would want him, as dreadful as our defense was last season. and i am one who isnt sold on shaub. a second for him is a coup for the falcons

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

nothing personal, but there is no way the skins want anything to do with Johnson, other then trading him. the simple fact is we have much greater needs then a wide out. regardless of how good anyone thinks he will be. i don't know why anyone would want him, as dreadful as our defense was last season. and i am one who isnt sold on shaub. a second for him is a coup for the falcons

No doubt we have greater needs, I agee with you there. But Calvin Johnson is, I hate to say can't miss, close as it gets.

We can find a DT either in the draft or FA or coach up what we have. A Calvin Johnson won't be next years draft or the year after.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

No doubt we have greater needs, I agee with you there. But Calvin Johnson is, I hate to say can't miss, close as it gets.

We can find a DT either in the draft or FA or coach up what we have. A Calvin Johnson won't be next years draft or the year after.

Certainly there will be another Calvin Johnson again. The hype machine gets going and the No. 1 receiver prospect becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread.

We won't need the top WR next year either.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Certainly there will be another Calvin Johnson again. The hype machine gets going and the No. 1 receiver prospect becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread.

We won't need the top WR next year either.

For every Calvin Johnson, I think there will be two or three Alan Branch's.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

For every Calvin Johnson, I think there will be two or three Alan Branch's.

I actually think it's the other way around, but that's cause I don't feel any reason to annoint Johnson the savior just yet. But usually 4-5 receivers carry a legit first round grade, whereas only 1-2 defensive tackles do each year.

I think it's safe to say Johnson is a cut above the average 1st round receiver, but in the grand scheme of things, if you were to give yourself Johnson, and me Robert Meachem or someone, we'd have similar prospects as far as contributing to a team full of veterans. Your prospect would likely be "better", technically, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. Too many other important factors go into building a team for me to worry about the difference between Robert Meachem and Calvin Johnson.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Certainly there will be another Calvin Johnson again. The hype machine gets going and the No. 1 receiver prospect becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread.
We won't need the top WR next year either.

You got that right. Remember the people who had Troy Williamson as our #1 target a couple of years ago?

The dude has 61 catches for 827 yards and 2 touchdowns in two seasons.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You got that right. Remember the people who had Troy Williamson as our #1 target a couple of years ago?

The dude has 61 catches for 827 yards and 2 touchdowns in two seasons.

I don't think Troy Williamson was ever considered to have the same potential as Johnson.

Well I don't know how good Johnson will turn out to be, it does seem clear that he is generating a level of hype that I havent seen for a receiver in the draft in quite some time.

I mean, the consensus on him is really really strong.

[100% PURE WHOOP ASS]

Originally Posted by dmek25

nothing personal, but there is no way the skins want anything to do with Johnson, other then trading him. the simple fact is we have much greater needs then a wide out. regardless of how good anyone thinks he will be. i don't know why anyone would want him, as dreadful as our defense was last season. and i am one who isnt sold on shaub. a second for him is a coup for the falcons

uh huh?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by dmek25

nothing personal, but there is no way the skins want anything to do with Johnson, other then trading him. the simple fact is we have much greater needs then a wide out. regardless of how good anyone thinks he will be. i don't know why anyone would want him, as dreadful as our defense was last season. and i am one who isnt sold on shaub. a second for him is a coup for the falcons

Unfortunately that's the type of mentality our front office has of picking for need as if we're one player away. Take the best player available, especially if he is as can't miss as Johnson. No way anyone can think that he wouldn't be an upgrade over Lloyd and Thrash.. Moss is set at #1 and Randle-El is a strong #3, if Johnson falls we'd be FOOLS not to pick him.

[Smurf85]

Well this kills the possibility of us getting CJ.I am pretty sure Alt is going to move up to get him now.They have the picks to do it thats for sure.I expect to see Alt move up to #2.All they have to do is flop picks with Detroit throw in a 2nd rounder this year and one next year.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Smurf85

Well this kills the possibility of us getting CJ.I am pretty sure Alt is going to move up to get him now.They have the picks to do it thats for sure.I expect to see Alt move up to #2.All they have to do is flop picks with Detroit throw in a 2nd rounder this year and one next year.

What if Oakland gets David Carr and then decides to draft CJ? Who would the Lions get with the 8th pick? Brady Quinn likely wouldn't be there. JaMarcus Russell wouldn't be there and neither would Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson. It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out- and affects the Skins...

[Smurf85]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What if Oakland gets David Carr and then decides to draft CJ? Who would the Lions get with the 8th pick? Brady Quinn likely wouldn't be there. JaMarcus Russell wouldn't be there and neither would Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson. It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out- and affects the Skins...

What has Carr done in the NFL.Nothing so why would Oakland want him as there #1.I also live about a hour away from Detroit and there are rumors that the Lions want one of the defensive players in the draft.Lets face it the Lions need help at almost every position.So they could fill one of there holes at 8.By the way there is the possibility that Peterson will be there.

[Jamaican'Skin]

Originally Posted by Smurf85

What has Carr done in the NFL.Nothing so why would Oakland want him as there #1.I also live about a hour away from Detroit and there are rumors that the Lions want one of the defensive players in the draft.Lets face it the Lions need help at almost every position.So they could fill one of there holes at 8.By the way there is the possibility that Peterson will be there.

There's not a lot that any QB can do from lying on his back 10- 20 times per game. You could be Peyton Manning, but if you don't have a good O Line to protect you, then you'll look crappy. I think Carr has great potential, he's just in a sticky situation. A change of scenery would probably do him well.

PS. Aaron Brooks hasn't really done anything in the NFL and Oakland wanted him last season. Just saying

[Smurf85]

Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

There's not a lot that any QB can do from lying on his back 10- 20 times per game. You could be Peyton Manning, but if you don't have a good O Line to protect you, then you'll look crappy. I think Carr has great potential, he's just in a sticky situation. A change of scenery would probably do him well.

PS. Aaron Brooks hasn't really done anything in the NFL and Oakland wanted him last season. Just saying

I would much rather take a chance on a rookie QB.You can say Carr has had a hard time in Houston.Point still is he hasn't been what everyone thought he was going to be.I would put money on the Raiders getting Russel.

[redskin37]

Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

There's not a lot that any QB can do from lying on his back 10- 20 times per game. You could be Peyton Manning, but if you don't have a good O Line to protect you, then you'll look crappy. I think Carr has great potential, he's just in a sticky situation. A change of scenery would probably do him well.

PS. Aaron Brooks hasn't really done anything in the NFL and Oakland wanted him last season. Just saying

You hit the nail on the head. I've got one word for Schaub. Duuuuuuuk!!!!