NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I am going to echo what most have you have been saying on this thread. I don't like the move at all. We don't need more linebackers right now, and we definely don't need to wrap up more of our precious cap space in linebackers.
This move would not help our main issue with our defense our Dline. If we pull the string on this move we are idiots, and the only way I would even think about this move is if we get all of the Bears first day picks. That's it anything else would be a complete rip off to us and it would show how much we haven't learned the past few years.

Any of you Capologists know exactly how much we are currently paying linebackers right now.

[SmootSmack]

I'm sure most wouldn't think this that big a problem if someone with the title "General Manager" in front of it was behind the trade from end. My guess is that the majority of the people who don't like the trade just don't like it because they're programmed to not like the move.

Personally, I don't hate the move but we can do better I think. By the way, hearing some rumbling about Justin Harrell and Charles Johnson. Two guys who could be there at #31

[MTK]

The kicker in this deal is what we would do at #31. Can we still pick up a quality DT or DE? If so this might not be a bad deal, but again it all depends on what's there at #31.

[hail_2_da_skins]

The Skins don't need another LB. They need a every down defensive end. This is a very deep draft. It might be best for the Skins to trade down and get additional picks. The defensive end that they need will be available in the middle of the first round.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

BeemNSeven you have to remember that Joe Gibbs never controlled the defensive side of the football. So now that he is old he has forgotten all about those great Dlines of the 80's and how much they won him SBs and not his great offense of smashing you in the mouth all day, then when you least expect it drop a bomb on you.

[celts32]

When did LB become the skins need? We need DL & OG. The skins would be trading 1000 points according to the chart in dropping to 31...that is the equivilent of a mid 1st round pick. Then you have to give him a record contract to make him happy. If the Redskins #1 need was LB this trade would make sense...as it is now it's assinine.

[hesscl34]

bad move... and I don't like him. We don't need some dude who whines like a baby when he doesn't get what he wants.. NO!

[Schneed10]

With any deal you make, whether for players or in business, you have to look at the opportunity cost, or said differently, what opportunity we're giving up to make this deal.

To me, we currently have the opportunity to either:
1) Select Amobi Okoye at 6th overall and get the beast DT that we need eat up blocks, allowing our LBs to flow to the ball, and allowing our DEs more space to rush the passer.
2) Trade #6 for multiple picks, such as a high 1st (still allowing us to get an impact DL player) and a 2nd. Which essentially means we'd be giving up a chance to draft a 2nd rounder who could play G or S for us. There is evidence that Denver is willing to make a deal. And if Adrian Peterson falls to us, there's a real possibility we could end up with a massive package being proposed to us.

In this deal, we get Briggs. But we give up ANY possibility at getting a huge offer for #6 should Quinn or Peterson drop to us. We give up the ability to fix our horrible DT spot opposite Griffin (please, let's dismiss the notion that Golston will ever be effective stopping the run at 290 pounds). We also give up more cap space because Briggs will be more expensive than the #6 pick. And we give up on the opportunity to let Rocky McIntosh develop into a serious player, because we'll have 3 LBs in front of him, plus Marshall vying for time as well.

Just look at the cost-benefit picture here. It doesn't add up.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

With any deal you make, whether for players or in business, you have to look at the opportunity cost, or said differently, what opportunity we're giving up to make this deal.

To me, we currently have the opportunity to either:
1) Select Amobi Okoye at 6th overall and get the beast DT that we need eat up blocks, allowing our LBs to flow to the ball, and allowing our DEs more space to rush the passer.
2) Trade #6 for multiple picks, such as a high 1st (still allowing us to get an impact DL player) and a 2nd. Which essentially means we'd be giving up a chance to draft a 2nd rounder who could play G or S for us. There is evidence that Denver is willing to make a deal. And if Adrian Peterson falls to us, there's a real possibility we could end up with a massive package being proposed to us.

In this deal, we get Briggs. But we give up ANY possibility at getting a huge offer for #6 should Quinn or Peterson drop to us. We give up the ability to fix our horrible DT spot opposite Griffin (please, let's dismiss the notion that Golston will ever be effective stopping the run at 290 pounds). We also give up more cap space because Briggs will be more expensive than the #6 pick. And we give up on the opportunity to let Rocky McIntosh develop into a serious player, because we'll have 3 LBs in front of him, plus Marshall vying for time as well.

Just look at the cost-benefit picture here. It doesn't add up.

Good post. You are absolutely correct.

As for all the, "we still keep a first round pick" talk, that is crap. It's the 31st pick! It might as well be a 2nd rounder.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

With any deal you make, whether for players or in business, you have to look at the opportunity cost, or said differently, what opportunity we're giving up to make this deal.

To me, we currently have the opportunity to either:
1) Select Amobi Okoye at 6th overall and get the beast DT that we need eat up blocks, allowing our LBs to flow to the ball, and allowing our DEs more space to rush the passer.
2) Trade #6 for multiple picks, such as a high 1st (still allowing us to get an impact DL player) and a 2nd. Which essentially means we'd be giving up a chance to draft a 2nd rounder who could play G or S for us. There is evidence that Denver is willing to make a deal. And if Adrian Peterson falls to us, there's a real possibility we could end up with a massive package being proposed to us.

In this deal, we get Briggs. But we give up ANY possibility at getting a huge offer for #6 should Quinn or Peterson drop to us. We give up the ability to fix our horrible DT spot opposite Griffin (please, let's dismiss the notion that Golston will ever be effective stopping the run at 290 pounds). We also give up more cap space because Briggs will be more expensive than the #6 pick. And we give up on the opportunity to let Rocky McIntosh develop into a serious player, because we'll have 3 LBs in front of him, plus Marshall vying for time as well.

Just look at the cost-benefit picture here. It doesn't add up.

Agreed. I personally wouldn't mind if we picked Okoye with our 6th pick.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Scheend you are right on with that last post brother. I don't like it either.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Sorry I mispelled your name dude.

[skinsfan242]

First: Lets not panic. In the espn article, they said Snyder hasn't even talked to the Bears. So the 6th for the 31st might not happen.
Second: This is a great deal if and only if we can get a second or third in addition.
Third: If we do make this deal, we should trade Rocky for a third round pick. It is obvious we don't think he can cut it, if we make this trade.
Finally: No matter what happens it might not be so bad, because Briggs is a absoulte stud and only 26. He can get in a three point stance on third downs and rush. With the 31st pick there is going to be a good player available. Heck maybe even A. Branch after Kiper keeps dogging him (just kidding).

[skinsfan69]

This is a typical move that we would make. FA quick fixes is what Snyder and his butt buddy Cerrato like to do. This is why we will never win with this clown as our owner. He just doesn't believe in building anything.

Why would we make a deal before the draft? It makes no frickin sense. What if someone falls to us and another team is willing to trade up to get a certain player?

Doesn't Briggs play the weakside? We already have Rocky and Marshall at those positions. Terrible trade if we go through with it.

[BrudLee]

Crazy thought I just had...

Previously, the Redskins were in discussions with the Broncos - Washington's sixth overall pick for Dré Bly and Denver's first, and reacquire a second- and third- round pick, which were dealt away (the Broncos have the Redskins' third-round selection from the T.J. Duckett trade). Obviously, this hasn't happened. By talking about our first rounder in conjunction with a two-time Pro Bowler under the franchise tag, could we be putting pressure on Denver to accept a previous deal that they may have tabled?