NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Even when you're wrong you still find some way to say you're right. I hope the trade doesn't go through. Not so I can say "Hey Grim21Reaper and I are right, the team is making smart decisions this offseason," but because it's the best move for the team in my opinion. I guess being right or wrong doesn't seem to matter as much to some of us as it does to others

Actually me being right seems to matter a whole lot to you, why? Because it usually means your wrong.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by offiss

Actually me being right seems to matter a whole lot to you, why? Because it usually means your wrong.

I really don't care. So don't sweat it

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by offiss

Actually me being right seems to matter a whole lot to you, why? Because it usually means your wrong.

BAN HIM!!!!, He is not a puppet, therefor he should get the PorterHouse treatment!!!!

[Oakland Red]

Something that was allegedly on a scroll at the bottom of a screen is a shaky basis for speculation. They might have left off important additional information about such a trade. Whoever puts those things on the scroll wants to get people stimulated so they will want to watch their network.

An actual verbal report would at least be somewhat more substantial, and even that anything but certainly reliable in my view.

[Smurf85]

Redskins may put together offer for Bears' Briggs

PHOENIX -- While a proposal has yet to be formalized, the Washington Redskins will make a trade offer to the Chicago Bears aimed at acquiring two-time Pro Bowl weakside linebacker Lance Briggs, agent Drew Rosenhaus and two league sources told ESPN.com late Monday night.
Washington will propose a swap of first-round draft picks in this year's draft -- the Redskins own the sixth overall selection and Chicago has the 31st choice in the lottery -- in exchange for Briggs. The potential deal, which is expected to pick up steam on Tuesday morning as the annual NFL meetings continue here, would be contingent on the Redskins signing Briggs to a long-term contract.

ESPN.com - NFL - Agent: Bears' Briggs could go to Redskins in trade

[SC Skins Fan]

I am speechless. How is it possible the the Redskins FO are actually considering this trade? It is yet another example of the Redskins having apparently a completely different value system than EVERY OTHER NFL TEAM OF THE FACE OF THE PLANET. The difference in value (just by the chart) between the 6th and 31st picks is 1,000 points, which is the equivalent of the #16 overall pick in the first round. Find me another team that would trade the 16th pick for a disgruntled LB who wants a FAT new contract. No other team in the NFL would give up more than a 2nd for Briggs, not a single one. I challenge you to find the team that would give up more than that. i don't care how many Pro Bowls he's been to, this is just a gross overvaluation of the player.

Even if he came in and did well it would still be a bad trade. It is like going to your Stock Trader, saying that you really like Amazon and the way Amazon does business. They have preformed well in the past and you think they will do well in the future. As a result you tell your trader that you don't want to pay the going rate, but instead want to pay TWICE the current price. Even if you ended up making money in the end, that would be a stupid deal. No one trades down from 6 to 31. I feel fairly safe in saying it has probably never happened before and there is a reason for that. It is because every other team in the NFL values their draft picks, the Redskins apparently still do not. If this trade goes through it is really going to challenge my loyalty as a fan and that is really saying something. The only way this deal would make any sense is if we were getting a healthy Tommie Harris back in return. Adding a very good linebacker to a team that needs some very good defensive linemen, giving up too much in order to do so, paying out yet another big contract . . . IT IS LIKE WE ARE FREAKING SPINNING OUR WHEELS, I can't take much more of this!

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Big C

we still have a first round pick though if it happens, so instead of getting just 1 player at 6 we get a pro bowler who is in his prime and a low first round pick. i think a lot of people are reacting poorly because they are excited about the draft and want to see us have a high pick, or have their hearts set on trading down. this trade wouldnt be as bad as its made out to be. there are tons of good DE's in this draft, and from what ive heard from sirius nfl radio good prospects at DE can be had later on in the 1st round and even the 2nd round. they even said the DE prospects are all very similar throughout the top part

Yeah but dropping 26 spots in the first round would be worth at least an additional two draft picks. Plus it is one of the few positions at which we have reasonable depth. It just makes no sense to do this deal. Briggs was a third round draft pick who excelled in a well designed system, playing besides some of the best defensive players in the league. There is no question he is great, but even if he maintains his level of success with us, we already have guys at that position who can play. Why not use the draft to address our needs and add some depth?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Big C

we still have a first round pick though if it happens, so instead of getting just 1 player at 6 we get a pro bowler who is in his prime and a low first round pick. i think a lot of people are reacting poorly because they are excited about the draft and want to see us have a high pick, or have their hearts set on trading down. this trade wouldnt be as bad as its made out to be. there are tons of good DE's in this draft, and from what ive heard from sirius nfl radio good prospects at DE can be had later on in the 1st round and even the 2nd round. they even said the DE prospects are all very similar throughout the top part

But what about defensive tackles? Because that's our biggest need.

[SmootSmack]

My only real problem with this trade is we just traded up last year to get Rocky McIntosh and then we signed London Fletcher-Baker earlier this month. Add that to Marshall and Washington and why do we need another LB?

Is my radical plan of moving Marshall to safety happening? Are they switching to at 3-4? Is Rocky going to be some sort of jack-of-all-trades backer off the bench? Is MW still hurt and are they looking to move him next?

On the other hand, are we just an intermediary party for Briggs to get to another team? Might be a bit off the wall thinking, but what if Team X is saying to us "Yeah, we'd love to trade you those picks but we're holding out for Briggs" Then we come back and say "Hey, we just got Briggs you want him you give us those picks"

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

My only real problem with this trade is we just traded up last year to get Rocky McIntosh and then we signed London Fletcher-Baker earlier this month. Add that to Marshall and Washington and why do we need another LB?

Is my radical plan of moving Marshall to safety happening? Are they switching to at 3-4? Is Rocky going to be some sort of jack-of-all-trades backer off the bench? Is MW still hurt and are they looking to move him next?

On the other hand, are we just an intermediary party for Briggs to get to another team? Might be a bit off the wall thinking, but what if Team X is saying to us "Yeah, we'd love to trade you those picks but we're holding out for Briggs" Then we come back and say "Hey, we just got Briggs you want him you give us those picks"

All these answers and more on the next episode of soap.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by offiss

All these answers and more on the next episode of soap.

Is Joe Gibbs Chester Tate?

[Big C]

i think we are truely over-valuing marshall. he is an ok player, but nowhere near the level of briggs. rocky can play all 3 spots so he will see plenty of time this year. i think if an outsider were to give their opinion on marshall they would think that he could easily be upgraded. solid backup, but not as good a starter as we are making him out to be

[Redskins8588]

Why is everyone asking if the Redskins are switching to a 3-4 deffense? I am not sure I am following the thinking. Is it because of the amount of LB's we would have if we got Briggs? I mean the Bears ran a 4-3 last year with Briggs on the weak side. So where are these thoughts of the Redskins switching to a 3-4 coming from?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Why is everyone asking if the Redskins are switching to a 3-4 deffense? I am not sure I am following the thinking. Is it because of the amount of LB's we would have if we got Briggs? I mean the Bears ran a 4-3 last year with Briggs on the weak side. So where are these thoughts of the Redskins switching to a 3-4 coming from?

I was only kidding when I asked it, mainly because we have so many LBs. With that in mind though, can Briggs come packaged with an Ian Scott or a Tommie Harris?

[SC Skins Fan]

Hey guys I really don't know what everyone is so upset about, it worked out really great when the Redskins signed Jeremiah Trotter, a young linebacker who had made a couple of Pro Bowls and had become disgruntled with his team . . . oh wait . . . And we didn't drop 25 spots in the first round to do that (NOBODY BUT THE REDSKINS WOULD EVEN TALK ABOUT DOING THAT!). From the sources this story is coming from (Schefter, Glazer, Pasquarelli) I can do nothing but believe that this is absolutely true and the Bears would be crazy not to make that deal. I'm treating this as a fait accompli until I hear otherwise . . . I'm officially on suicide watch . . .