How the Lance Briggs deal started.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

So you would be happy with this deal and think it would make the team better?

Well as I've said here and here and probably other places my concern with the deal is a.) shouldn't we get more picks and b.) why did we trade up to get Rocky and then sign Fletch only to add another linebacker. Granted, we're talking Lance Briggs here but still

I don't have a problem with people opposing the trade. Like I said, I still lean against it. All I'm saying is, to Matty's question, I think a lot of people's reason for opposing the trade isn't "well what about Rocky" or "can we afford to pay Briggs, what does this mean for Coooley" or "is Briggs a system back" or anything like that, it's just "well, it's the Redskins so it must be a bad move."

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well as I've said here and here and probably other places my concern with the deal is a.) shouldn't we get more picks and b.) why did we trade up to get Rocky and then sign Fletch only to add another linebacker. Granted, we're talking Lance Briggs here but still

I don't have a problem with people opposing the trade. Like I said, I still lean against it. All I'm saying is, to Matty's question, I think a lot of people's reason for opposing the trade isn't "well what about Rocky" or "can we afford to pay Briggs, what does this mean for Coooley" or "is Briggs a system back" or anything like that, it's just "well, it's the Redskins so it must be a bad move."

I don't think so. I've seen tons of posts in this thread and in the 200+ post one stating why this is a bad deal. There's tons of real reasons and tons of substantiation behind all of them.

In this case, this is no knee-jerk reaction. People are mainly bothered by the fact that we have glaring needs at D line, and this trade severely compromises our ability to satisfy that need.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think so. I've seen tons of posts in this thread and in the 200+ post one stating why this is a bad deal. There's tons of real reasons and tons of substantiation behind all of them.

In this case, this is no knee-jerk reaction. People are mainly bothered by the fact that we have glaring needs at D line, and this trade severely compromises our ability to satisfy that need.

Who said you could talk? Didn't The Ego ban you for 10 weeks? Seriously though, perhaps I should have replaced "a lot of people" with "there are people who"

Bottom line, if the trade goes down as speculated (#6 for Briggs and #31)what's the next step for you as a fan, and the Redskins as a team

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who said you could talk? Didn't The Ego ban you for 10 weeks? Seriously though, perhaps I should have replaced "a lot of people" with "there are people who"

Bottom line, if the trade goes down as speculated (#6 for Briggs and #31)what's the next step for you as a fan, and the Redskins as a team

To hope to be pleasantly surprised with the Defense after week 4.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who said you could talk? Didn't The Ego ban you for 10 weeks? Seriously though, perhaps I should have replaced "a lot of people" with "there are people who"

Bottom line, if the trade goes down as speculated (#6 for Briggs and #31)what's the next step for you as a fan, and the Redskins as a team

I'll probably be grumpy until training camp hits, and then I'll catch the fever, and I'll root for Briggs and Marcus to sandwich Eli and make him cry.

Whatever the 'Skins do I'm along for the ride. And if they acquire Briggs, despite all my complaining, I'd never be so happy to see myself wrong on something.

See, the offseason brain is logical, and thinks through the salary cap, and roots for solid scouting of college players to acquire cheap talent to build the team for the long term. The in-season brain is illogical, emotional, and just wants to see the team smash face. The two brains don't communicate well with one another. The offseason brain can be ready to jump off a bridge, but the in-season brain is always going to eat, sleep, and breathe the burgundy and gold.

It's not unlike man's two "heads." Sometimes the brain tells you no no no, this makes no sense. But the "other" head always says "shut the eff up, Spock, we're going in."

[Skinny Tee]

Has anyone even determined whether that Briggs was a beneficiary of his scheme or surrounding. Maybe the fact that there were other Pro Bowlers on the Bears D was the reason he was playing at that Pro Bowl level?

Who knows, but it seems that the Skins FO has trouble assessing value to prospective free agents and Briggs situation doesn't seem to be any different.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

In this case, this is no knee-jerk reaction. People are mainly bothered by the fact that we have glaring needs at D line, and this trade severely compromises our ability to satisfy that need.

Not to mention our secondary!
I was explaining this deal to a coworker this morning and as I was telling him some of the details (he's not a Skins fan, that idiot) I realized that the linebacking corps is arguably the strongest part of our defense right now. Last year we all would have been mad if we had gone out and traded a bunch of draft picks to get Will Shields with our Oline being as strong as it was; I see this as the defensive equivalent.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well as I've said here and here and probably other places my concern with the deal is a.) shouldn't we get more picks and b.) why did we trade up to get Rocky and then sign Fletch only to add another linebacker. Granted, we're talking Lance Briggs here but still

I don't have a problem with people opposing the trade. Like I said, I still lean against it. All I'm saying is, to Matty's question, I think a lot of people's reason for opposing the trade isn't "well what about Rocky" or "can we afford to pay Briggs, what does this mean for Coooley" or "is Briggs a system back" or anything like that, it's just "well, it's the Redskins so it must be a bad move."

Alright, I see what you're getting at. However, I after reading through the majority of the posts I think most people are pissed because of the reasons that you stated (Rocky, trading the 6th for more picks, money for the future, etc) and that this isn't one of those situations where people are bashing for the sake of bashing.