NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah, we COULD. And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass when he hops.

Bottom line: the 6th pick is worth so much more than the 31st because the chances of hitting on the player is so much higher.

Your argument makes no sense.

do you think I am putting the same weight on the 6th and 31st pick? I know the difference between the two.

Let me ask you this :
scenario 1 - we trade the 6th pick for a lower round 1st, 3rd, maybe a 2nd. we draft a DE or DT later in the 1st, probably between the 11th and 15th rounds. 2nd round - Oline, Safety, corner? 3rd, same needs. is that what you feel we need to do??

in the above it is not known or fact that we get more than two picks for our 6th pick. We may get a 1st and only a 2nd, at best. So, that player chosen in the 2nd, are they going to start? if we draft an Oline man - he isn't starting, corner? he isnt' starting, safety - nope not starting. nor would any 3rd round player selected.

in the trade with Chicago - we move down to the 31st and could select the same position as we would have with the 11th to 15th pick. maybe not as good, but still a 1st rounder, should be a decent player. We also get Briggs - an impact player who ultimately is way better than anyone we would have drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round. Plus, he plays right now. Gibbs isn't going to be around to watch our 2nd 3rd and 4th round players develop into stars, he wants to win now. He is going to do what ever it takes to win now.
I am not arguing with anyone. I respect all of your opinions or theories. I think you all add a different side to these discussions. I apologize to whomever it was I called an ass. that was out of line.
I just thought I should try and clear up why I think this deal is good for us. Although some of you may have shot it down earlier, i thought i would explain my thinking a little more.

or, maybe I am mentally challenged who knows.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Gibbs isn't going to be around to watch our 2nd 3rd and 4th round players develop into stars, he wants to win now. He is going to do what ever it takes to win now.

This is what really worries me about our current management. I have a pretty good idea that this is the mindset in the Redskins organization. The problem is: if you try to win every year, as if it's the first and last, then you may never win. Some things take planning, and a long-term approach.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Let me ask you this :
scenario 1 - we trade the 6th pick for a lower round 1st, 3rd, maybe a 2nd. we draft a DE or DT later in the 1st, probably between the 11th and 15th rounds. 2nd round - Oline, Safety, corner? 3rd, same needs. is that what you feel we need to do??

Yes. Not so much an O-guard, but a total of two new defensive linemen.

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

in the above it is not known or fact that we get more than two picks for our 6th pick. We may get a 1st and only a 2nd, at best. So, that player chosen in the 2nd, are they going to start? if we draft an Oline man - he isn't starting, corner? he isnt' starting, safety - nope not starting. nor would any 3rd round player selected.

As has been pointed out, there were offers that included a player (Dre Bly, Al Wilson) for our #6, plus a later 1st (#21), 2nd, and 3rd rounders. For the record, I'm not in favor of drafting a guard simply because we lost Dockery. That position can be filled with a journeyman free agent without a significant loss in performance.

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

in the trade with Chicago - we move down to the 31st and could select the same position as we would have with the 11th to 15th pick. maybe not as good, but still a 1st rounder, should be a decent player. We also get Briggs - an impact player who ultimately is way better than anyone we would have drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round. Plus, he plays right now. Gibbs isn't going to be around to watch our 2nd 3rd and 4th round players develop into stars, he wants to win now. He is going to do what ever it takes to win now.

Lemar Marshall can play "right now". And Rocky is still waiting in the wings. This debate has more to do with the fact that we are basically set at linebacker. Briggs will cost too much over the long haul, and his impact could be very dependent on the players that are in front of him on the D-line.

The "Win NOW" philosophy is exactly why this franchise never goes anywhere.