Maske/JLC: Gibbs Hints Redskins Might Trade Up

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's the problem I have with this. We just spend big bucks and picks last year to get Randle-El and Lloyd; two relatively young receivers who have shown they can play in this league. Furthermore, we have Moss and Cooley (who I'll count as a WR for these purposes).

Granted, neither Lloyd nor El put up stellar numbers but a.) we were dealing with a new offense that everyone admits takes a year to learn and b.) Jason Campbell was for all intents and purposes a rookie when he played in the back half of the season.

CJ is great, no question about that. But why do we want to just give up on our current receivers-especially two guys we just spent big on just last year-after only one season in a new offense with a young quarterback. Why not let them grow together?

If you want to tear that unit up then fine, but it's hard to listen then when you turn right around and talk about how we have no patience as a front office, and we need to develop our players and so forth. (and when I say "you" I'm addressing the universal "you")

We are talking about possibly getting a truely great player. If we were talking about Dwaye Jarrett or the guy from Tenn. then it would be different. I would say keep who we have. It's not worth it. But if you have the chance to get Jerry Rice then you make the move.

It's moot point. It looks like we are going to make the deal to Chi. Sports Talk 980 is reporting that we have made a contract offer to Briggs. 20 million in guar. money.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We are talking about possibly getting a truely great player. If we were talking about Dwaye Jarrett or the guy from Tenn. then it would be different. I would say keep who we have. It's not worth it. But if you have the chance to get Jerry Rice then you make the move.

It's moot point. It looks like we are going to make the deal to Chi. Sports Talk 980 is reporting that we have made a contract offer to Briggs. 20 million in guar. money.

Contract offer really doesn't mean much if CHI isn't willing to make the trade, which I believe is the case.

Briggs would be a great addition, but I think we need a CB first. Well shit, I want my cake and eat it too, let's get both.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We are talking about possibly getting a truely great player. If we were talking about Dwaye Jarrett or the guy from Tenn. then it would be different. I would say keep who we have. It's not worth it. But if you have the chance to get Jerry Rice then you make the move.

It's moot point. It looks like we are going to make the deal to Chi. Sports Talk 980 is reporting that we have made a contract offer to Briggs. 20 million in guar. money.

$20 million in guranteed money! I thought that type of money is for shutdown CB's like Champ Bailey - not OLB. Plus what effect would that have on our cap - especially when we need to resign Cooley - Schneed any thoughts on the cap implications of signing Briggs would be like and its effects on the Skins ability to resign Cooley next year?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Bill B

$20 million in guranteed money! I thought that type of money is for shutdown CB's like Champ Bailey - not OLB. Plus what effect would that have on our cap - especially when we need to resign Cooley - Schneed any thoughts on the cap implications of signing Briggs would be like and its effects on the Skins ability to resign Cooley next year?

Adalius Thomas received $20M guaranteed from the Patriots, so I don't think $20M for Briggs is too out of line.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Adalius Thomas received $20M guaranteed from the Patriots, so I don't think $20M for Briggs is too out of line.

I am of the camp that you pay the large bonuses to the superior DE's and shutdown corners, and than spend the remaining amounts on the LB's as far as defensive spending goes.

But lets say we give the large money to Briggs - what is the DL looking like as far as protecting the LB's - not too good in my opinion.
With the amount of money already spent on Washington and Fletcher wouldn't it be more prudent to spend the money up front on the DL? Or if you really want to give a $20 million bonus away why not focus on a shutdown CB to prepare for the eventual departure of Springs?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Bill B

I am of the camp that you pay the large bonuses to the superior DE's and shutdown corners, and than spend the remaining amounts on the LB's as far as defensive spending goes.

But lets say we give the large money to Briggs - what is the DL looking like as far as protecting the LB's - not too good in my opinion.
With the amount of money already spent on Washington and Fletcher wouldn't it be more prudent to spend the money up front on the DL? Or if you really want to give a $20 million bonus away why not focus on a shutdown CB to prepare for the eventual departure of Springs?

I think all signs are pointing that we invest our #6 pick, albeit possibly thought a trade down, on the DL. We're going to invest probably more than one pick on it, and IMO it will be the theme of the Redskins in the draft. How nice would it be to trade down and get two first round DL choices.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Bill B

I am of the camp that you pay the large bonuses to the superior DE's and shutdown corners, and than spend the remaining amounts on the LB's as far as defensive spending goes.

But lets say we give the large money to Briggs - what is the DL looking like as far as protecting the LB's - not too good in my opinion.
With the amount of money already spent on Washington and Fletcher wouldn't it be more prudent to spend the money up front on the DL? Or if you really want to give a $20 million bonus away why not focus on a shutdown CB to prepare for the eventual departure of Springs?

I'm not advocating the deal I'm just saying the market has been set for LBs and $20M guaranteed is not out of line for a player of Briggs' caliber. The guaranteed money for corners is now even higher thanks to Clements.

I'd like to see the DL addressed as well, but the offseason is far from over so I'm not going to get too crazy just yet.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not advocating the deal I'm just saying the market has been set for LBs and $20M guaranteed is not out of line for a player of Briggs' caliber. The guaranteed money for corners is now even higher thanks to Clements.

I'd like to see the DL addressed as well, but the offseason is far from over so I'm not going to get too crazy just yet.

Hopefully all these rumors are smokescreens and the team addresses DL and depth across the board. I do think though that a lot of the salaries escalated out of control this offseason and hopefully it was caused more by the availability of cap space than "salary inflation".

The one thing that everyone must take into consideration is that if we do stay at the 6th slot we are basically are on the hook of paying around $15 million in guranteed money to that player. Accroding to Sportstalk 980 today Vernon Davis who was picked 6th last year got about $14.5 million in guranteed money and Pac Man Jones the year before was not too far off this amount as well. To me if we can somehow pull off a trade down and pick up multiple picks it would not only bolster our chances at building depth but vastly help with the salary cap.