What is your main gripe with the proposed Briggs deal?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see us trade down and pick up more picks, but it's not quite as easy as some seem to think.

I agree with this, but it becomes a lot more likely to happen if Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson were sitting there at 6 when we're on the clock.

Which is why I can't understand why we'd make a move before we're actually on the clock. Who knows, we could get amazing value.

And besides, if given the choice between Briggs and the #31, and standing pat at #6 and picking, I'd choose standing pat and picking at #6. Okoye would fill a much bigger need for us than Briggs does.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I agree with this, but it becomes a lot more likely to happen if Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson were sitting there at 6 when we're on the clock.

Which is why I can't understand why we'd make a move before we're actually on the clock. Who knows, we could get amazing value.

And besides, if given the choice between Briggs and the #31, and standing pat at #6 and picking, I'd choose standing pat and picking at #6. Okoye would fill a much bigger need for us than Briggs does.

I agree but it just seems like some people keep trumpeting this idea of trading down like it's a simple thing to do.

Personally I'd rather hold on to the #6 pick too and see what shakes out on draft day.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree but it just seems like some people keep trumpeting this idea of trading down like it's a simple thing to do.

Personally I'd rather hold on to the #6 pick too and see what shakes out on draft day.

I think people are generally working under the assumption that one of the guys available to us at 6 is going to be a very in-demand prospect.

Jamarcus Russell is loved because he's huge and has a cannon arm
Calvin Johnson is loved for obvious reasons
Joe Thomas is thought to be the only franchise T in the draft
Brady Quinn looks real good to QB-hungry teams
Adrian Peterson has crazy RB talent

Given the needs of the teams in the top 5, there's a good chance one of those guys falls to 6. I think people are assuming one of them will be there for us, and that someone will want them. I think chances are, we'll be fielding a couple offers.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think people are generally working under the assumption that one of the guys available to us at 6 is going to be a very in-demand prospect.

Jamarcus Russell is loved because he's huge and has a cannon arm
Calvin Johnson is loved for obvious reasons
Joe Thomas is thought to be the only franchise T in the draft
Brady Quinn looks real good to QB-hungry teams
Adrian Peterson has crazy RB talent

Given the needs of the teams in the top 5, there's a good chance one of those guys falls to 6. I think people are assuming one of them will be there for us, and that someone will want them. I think chances are, we'll be fielding a couple offers.

Good summary of the marquee players that other GMs could fall in love with enough to cough up some picks. I think the Cards are the wild card in all this, but they may field offers to move back too. Minnesota is an interesting scenario too, they might want to move up a few spots to get quinn.
Overall, we're not in great shape at #6 because most teams will know we're not seriously interested in these guys, or teams interested in these guys will want to move up higher than 6.

If CJ were to fall, maybe we'd take him, but that's unlikely he'd slip to 6. Now that Denver signed Bly, they may not be in the running for the 6 pick. Houston might be a possibility, but to move up 2 spots we're not going to get a lot of picks from them. We'd be lucky to get a 2nd.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I agree with this, but it becomes a lot more likely to happen if Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson were sitting there at 6 when we're on the clock.

Which is why I can't understand why we'd make a move before we're actually on the clock. Who knows, we could get amazing value.

And besides, if given the choice between Briggs and the #31, and standing pat at #6 and picking, I'd choose standing pat and picking at #6. Okoye would fill a much bigger need for us than Briggs does.

I agree.
Unless the deal is UNBELIEVABLE, we wait until were on the clock! This deal is not.............that