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[riggoraider]

The Briggs aquistion is probably a done deal. I think that we should be worrying about wich WR will be available at 31 because this is where we are going to go with that pick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

The Briggs aquistion is probably a done deal. I think that we should be worrying about wich WR will be available at 31 because this is where we are going to go with that pick.

You're still pretty convinced we're going WR eh? Even if it's not Calvin Johnson? I can't see using the first pick we have on a WR

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You're still pretty convinced we're going WR eh? Even if it's not Calvin Johnson? I can't see using the first pick we have on a WR

I am really convinced "smack", I think that it is the 'skins fandom who are expecting a D-lineman but the FO seems to be content with what we have.

I think that we are going to work on scoring some touchdowns now that we think our defense is ready.

I am not saying that I am right but it is a gut feeling

[SmootSmack]

The concern I'd have with the Giants is that we can't fall into that trap of "Well, we can't let a division rival get Briggs. We have to do whatever it takes to get him before they do."

If I'm the Bears though Briggs for the #20 is a rock solid deal. You don't have to break the bank to pay the #6 and now you have the #20, #31, and #37 in a pretty deep draft.

[GMScud]

I'm not sure how "we think our defense is ready." We have done nothing to improve a D-line that was terrible last year. We can expect our LBs to struggle just as much if our tackles and ends can't pressure the QB, eat blocks, or stop the run.

On a side note, that Wiz game tonight made me friggin sick to my stomach.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'm not sure how "we think our defense is ready." We have done nothing to improve a D-line that was terrible last year. We can expect our LBs to struggle just as much if our tackles and ends can't pressure the QB, eat blocks, or stop the run.

On a side note, that Wiz game tonight made me friggin sick to my stomach.

Believe me... I do understand what you are saying... but...the hand writing is on the wall if we sign Briggs (and I am sure that this a done deal).

We are moving down to 31, which gives us no shot at one of the the top D-lineman in the draft this year. That speaks for itself to the fact that the coaching staff is not really worried about improvement at that position this year.

So you have to ask yourself...what was the next biggest concern on our team this past season?

The answer is a definite, intermediate and red-zone passing offense, therefore,I am sure that we are going to address that concern with a bigger receiver who can give our young QB more options in both situations.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

Believe me... I do understand what you are saying... but...the hand writing is on the wall if we sign Briggs (and I am sure that this a done deal).

We are moving down to 31, which gives us no shot at one of the the top D-lineman in the draft this year. That speaks for itself to the fact that the coaching staff is not really worried about improvement at that position this year.

So you have to ask yourself...what was the next biggest concern on our team this past season?

The answer is a definite, intermediate and red-zone passing offense, therefore,I am sure that we are going to address that concern with a bigger receiver who can give our young QB more options in both situations.

The obvious flaw causing our inability to move the ball in short yardage situations is a running issue. The solution would be to get bigger up front at the Tight End position, and quicker at the interior line positions.

I hope you aren't suggesting we get a big guy and throw him goalline fades. The success rate of that play is in the 15-18% range. If we threw 4 straight goalline fades, theres a better than 50% chance we'd fail to score.

We certainly need to fix our short yardage problem, but you'd be crazy to start anywhere but the guys up front.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The obvious flaw causing our inability to move the ball in short yardage situations is a running issue. The solution would be to get bigger up front at the Tight End position, and quicker at the interior line positions.

I hope you aren't suggesting we get a big guy and throw him goalline fades. The success rate of that play is in the 15-18% range. If we threw 4 straight goalline fades, theres a better than 50% chance we'd fail to score.

We certainly need to fix our short yardage problem, but you'd be crazy to start anywhere but the guys up front.

I am not talking "short yardage", as far, as 3 to 5 yards. The red-zone starts at the 20 yard line.We do OK from the 20 to the 20... hence the #4 rushing offense in the NFL .... Our problem starts when we get into the red-zone when our only, true, passing option is Cooley.

We can,also, help our backs out if we can get an receiver who can , effectively, catch the 15-20 yard passes across the middle of the field.

[Oakland Red]

Unless we draft a game changing player like Calvin Johnson, we need to draft for the defense, in my view, given the way it broke down last year.

Our offense will improve greatly from the opportunity for Jason Campbell to get his timing down with his receivers, something that wasn't possible last year.

Also, we will go into the year with the Gibbs/Saunders hybrid offense that was working at the end of the year, instead of being completely unsure of our identity as we were when we changed everything to Saunders system at the beginning of the year.

We also have the fact that the players had much needed time off this year, and that Gibbs, showing real leadership in listening to his players, allowed them to work out on their own for a couple of months.

Our secondary has been solidified with free agency and players returning from injury. We have an excellent new defensive quarterback in Fletcher. With Washington, McIntosh, and Marshall we have a lot of talent, but I think Briggs would add a lot. I can see McIntosh and Marshall as able backups and McIntosh getting a lot of playing time in a rotation.

Unless there is a game breaking player, I would draft for the defensive line. A major impact player at a position of non-need still gives you more overall strength, and you can trade or adjust your roster later. Without such a player, like Calvin Johnson, I would draft for the line. We need to get younger there. Still we have the emerging Carter, who was coming on at the end last year, Cornelius Griffin, Golston, Salavea, Daniels, Wynn - all good players. We do need youth there though.

I think Brandon Lloyd is still a talented player who came out here into a confused situation with our offense and perhaps was a little overwhelmed by things with the expecations and so forth. SF is a very laid back place. Hopefully, he will come on strong this year, but I would start ARE, (who I think is a game breaking player), given his experience and status as a team leader - and he will have a chance to get his timing with Campbell from the beginning. We will have a situation where the offense, from the start of the year, will be something the players relate to and have a strong sense of identity with.

Finally, I think that the Redskins' system of bringing players in who are really good people, who will work together cooperatively, through tough times and good times, will pay its dividends.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

Believe me... I do understand what you are saying... but...the hand writing is on the wall if we sign Briggs (and I am sure that this a done deal).

We are moving down to 31, which gives us no shot at one of the the top D-lineman in the draft this year. That speaks for itself to the fact that the coaching staff is not really worried about improvement at that position this year.

So you have to ask yourself...what was the next biggest concern on our team this past season?

The answer is a definite, intermediate and red-zone passing offense, therefore,I am sure that we are going to address that concern with a bigger receiver who can give our young QB more options in both situations.

Why are you so sure that this is a done deal with the Briggs thing?

Also, I kind of disagree that we have "no shot" at one of the top D-lineman with the 31st pick. Guys like Carriker, Spencer, Crowder, Harrell- all could be there. This is one of the deepest drafts for D-line that I can ever remember.

The red-zone passing issues probably had something to do with the QB. Brunell got benched mid-season for a guy who had never started a game before. Not exactly consistency from the most important position. Remember in '05, Sellers catching 7 TDs in the red zone? Cooley's productivity? Also, last season Portis led the NFC in rushing TDs when he got hurt. We are run first. We have blazing speed in ARE and Moss, really all we need in the WR department is a big possession receiver, and Cooley functions pretty well as that guy. Remember my comparisons it Saunders' offense in KC??

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Why are you so sure that this is a done deal with the Briggs thing?

Also, I kind of disagree that we have "no shot" at one of the top D-lineman with the 31st pick. Guys like Carriker, Spencer, Crowder, Harrell- all could be there. This is one of the deepest drafts for D-line that I can ever remember.

The red-zone passing issues probably had something to do with the QB. Brunell got benched mid-season for a guy who had never started a game before. Not exactly consistency from the most important position. Remember in '05, Sellers catching 7 TDs in the red zone? Cooley's productivity? Also, last season Portis led the NFC in rushing TDs when he got hurt. We are run first. We have blazing speed in ARE and Moss, really all we need in the WR department is a big possession receiver, and Cooley functions pretty well as that guy. Remember my comparisons it Saunders' offense in KC??

Carriker will not be there at 31 and the other guys will not beat out the players that we have now, therfore we may as well play what we have now and wait to next year, when we have plenty of draft picks, to get a better quality D-lineman than the 31st pick.

The "big possesion receiver" is my point and who we will probably go after with the 31st pick. Saunders' offense worked well in KC but we are trying to be better than a first round playoff losing team.

[GMScud]

Throw in Rocky as well?? WHAT? Or we could just stand pat and not get completely and totally screwed. I am damn tired of all this.