Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!!

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Could we replace Betts with Lloyd to make the deal happen?

Wouldn't 4 highly paid recievers be overkill especially when the defenisve line is of need of some help and the draft this year has a lot of DE's and DL's that could make an impact?

Have we been trying to trade Lloyd, and no one is interested?

We followed up one of our best years of play in recent history with our worst offseason.

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Could we replace Betts with Lloyd to make the deal happen?

Wouldn't 4 highly paid recievers be overkill especially when the defenisve line is of need of some help and the draft this year has a lot of DE's and DL's that could make an impact?

if cleveland needed a WR bill, they would just choose calvin, they dont need our bs wr in lloyd

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

if cleveland needed a WR bill, they would just choose calvin, they dont need our bs wr in lloyd

Cleveland has Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow, both 1st round draft picks. I doubt they draft CJ. Besides, who's gonna throw him the ball?

[DieHardSince76]

If we could replace Betts with Lloyd, sign me on as a booster of this trade. Otherwise, forget it. We need D linemen!

[GMScud]

Another thing- Cleveland desperately needs a QB. Derek Andersen and Charlie Frye are not gonna win them any significant football games. Romeo Crennell and Charlie Weis coached together in NE. You better believe they are targeting Brady Quinn. They are foolish if they don't. They could draft Adrian Peterson, but they did just get Jamal Lewis. If Cleveland is smart they keep that #3 and draft Quinn, then draft a RB in the 2nd round. Unless they think they can get Quinn at #6, but that's no guarantee by any means.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by GMScud

They could draft Adrian Peterson, but they did just get Jamal Lewis. If Cleveland is smart they keep that #3 and draft Quinn, then draft a RB in the 2nd round. Unless they think they can get Quinn at #6, but that's no guarantee by any means.

If this trade acutally happened they wouldn't need to draft a RB because they'd be picking up Betts.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

If this trade acutally happened they wouldn't need to draft a RB because they'd be picking up Betts.

Right, but they still wouldn't have addressed their QB situation, and we'd have their 3rd round pick which is the neighborhood where Troy Smith, who has lobbied Cleveland to pick him, will be taken.

Trying to make a big splash with a wideout when we already have 3 PLUS a great TE makes no sense, especially if it would cost us Betts, who was probably our best offensive player last year. Who's gonna step in if Portis' surgically repaired shoulder doesn't hold up? Rock Cartwright? Mike Sellers? I love those guys, don't get me wrong, but we'd be screwed if we had to rely solely on them to handle the running game.

[celts32]

I don't love the trade but I would do this before the Briggs trade.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by celts32

I don't love the trade but I would do this before the Briggs trade.

Most definitely!!!

That being said this trade will more than likely be one that does happen on draft day. However, the fact remains that we still dont have any other first day picks than the 6th overall. This trade would potentially give us CJ and a 3rd rounder.

Cant beat that with a bat!!

We'd be hearing "Campbell to Johnson. Touchdown!!!" for years to come!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

We'd be hearing "Campbell to Johnson. Touchdown!!!" for years to come!!

Because hearing "Campbell to Moss" just doesn't turn you on anymore? Novelty value gone?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

I would guess that Cleveland would have to take Smith in the 2nd, but that might be kind of a stretch. Maybe they take Drew Stanton instead, even though that probably wouldn't be a really popular choice around Cleveland.

As far as trading Betts, I don't really like it all the much either. We absolutely need to have 2 above average running backs or we're in trouble. Like you said, if we lose Betts we don't really have anyone great to step in for him and that just creates another need for the team.

I have to admit though, this whole Calvin Johnson thing has me feeling like a bit of a hypocrite. I'm totally against trading for Briggs because I don't think that move fills a real need. At the same time though, the thought of having Johnson on our offense has me feeling giddy, even though WR is not a true need (at least not a first round need).

The more I think about it the more I hope we trade down to someone like Atlanta for their first and fourth round picks (even though we'd lose some value on that) and pick up Okoye and an extra pick.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I would guess that Cleveland would have to take Smith in the 2nd, but that might be kind of a stretch. Maybe they take Drew Stanton instead, even though that probably wouldn't be a really popular choice around Cleveland.

As far as trading Betts, I don't really like it all the much either. We absolutely need to have 2 above average running backs or we're in trouble. Like you said, if we lose Betts we don't really have anyone great to step in for him and that just creates another need for the team.

I have to admit though, this whole Calvin Johnson thing has me feeling like a bit of a hypocrite. I'm totally against trading for Briggs because I don't think that move feels a real need. At the same time though, the thought of having Johnson on our offense has me feeling giddy, even though WR is not a true need (at least not a first round need).

The more I think about it the more I hope we trade down to someone like Atlanta for their first and fourth round picks (even though we'd lose some value on that) and pick up Okoye and an extra pick.

Okoye and an extra pick is EXACTLY what I want. I would be thrilled with that. The Falcons wants either LaRon Landry or Calvin Johnson. They could get Landry with the 6th pick for sure if we could make a deal with them.

I'm headed to the bar to watch my beloved Hoyas and Gators handle their business.

[Daseal]

Cleveland can get the QB they want in Quinn at 6. I don't see anyone else going for him. I wouldn't be upset if we went after Calvin Johnson. He'll be a stud in the league. Betts is a good runner, but he has fumbling problems. I'm all for this deal, I'd like Johnson on the team, but even if we just do this then repackage the 3rd overall for someone to get Johnson I'd be okay with it.

[RMSkins]

Forget Calvin Johnson. WE DON'T NEED HIM!!! We have far bigger holes to fill.

[Big C]

if portis went down again this year and we did this trade we'd have to rely on rock and nemo to carry the load...yikes