The Last Briggs Thread? Bears Say No Deal

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really hope this is the end of it. I'd like to see them develop Rocky.

That being said, the fact that they were looking at Briggs really speaks volumes as to what they think about the 6th pick.

The Skins really want out of that pick. So much so that they were willing to trade it for a player that doesn't fill a glaring need.

I can see where they are coming from. IMO, Okoye is the one guy who is good enough to represent the 6th pick and not hurt our defense with a glaring weakness. Carriker is the other guy I would want, but doesn't represent the 6th pick.

I think that Gibbs is turned off by Okoye's age because of his preference for older players, but I also feel that his fears are unwarrented. Yeah, hes 19, but he also played 4 full seasons in college. That's some simply invaluable experience.

He's mature beyond his years, and he's the true once in a lifetime player in this draft. If I was GM of the Redskins, and I had the No. 1 overall pick instead of the 6th, and I was absolutely unable to trade out of it, I would take Okoye first overall.

That said, I could see why Gibbs might pass on him. And looking past him, the value of player available at No. 6 isnt very good for what we like to do.

So if we can trade down out of the 6th pick, I'd be all for that I guess, even if it costs us Okoye (since theres no guarentee we'd draft him anyway). But I'd be much more satisfied with extra picks than with a veteran like Briggs. This team is not short on veteran leadership. We need cheap, young guys to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and sould of this team three years down the road.

The best possible move would be selecting Okoye at 6, but there are a bunch of other good moves. Luckily, this Briggs talk is put to rest for now, so we can explore those other options.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I can see where they are coming from. IMO, Okoye is the one guy who is good enough to represent the 6th pick and not hurt our defense with a glaring weakness. Carriker is the other guy I would want, but doesn't represent the 6th pick.

I think that Gibbs is turned off by Okoye's age because of his preference for older players, but I also feel that his fears are unwarrented. Yeah, hes 19, but he also played 4 full seasons in college. That's some simply invaluable experience.

He's mature beyond his years, and he's the true once in a lifetime player in this draft. If I was GM of the Redskins, and I had the No. 1 overall pick instead of the 6th, and I was absolutely unable to trade out of it, I would take Okoye first overall.

That said, I could see why Gibbs might pass on him. And looking past him, the value of player available at No. 6 isnt very good for what we like to do.

So if we can trade down out of the 6th pick, I'd be all for that I guess, even if it costs us Okoye (since theres no guarentee we'd draft him anyway). But I'd be much more satisfied with extra picks than with a veteran like Briggs. This team is not short on veteran leadership. We need cheap, young guys to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and sould of this team three years down the road.

The best possible move would be selecting Okoye at 6, but there are a bunch of other good moves. Luckily, this Briggs talk is put to rest for now, so we can explore those other options.

You mention the fact we need cheap, young players to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and soul of the team three years down the road [unquote] I agree, but unfortunately that's not the Redskins MO, they have demonstrated since Snyder bought the team that they are a FA driven team, and so far they have not demonstrated any willingness to change from that direction.

Lance Briggs aside, It is my gut feeling that the player the Redskins really want to land in this draft is Calvin Johnson, and that's despite our current WR situation. It will be a travesty if holding the 6th pick in the draft we emerge without a starting caliber player that can impact our defense.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

You mention the fact we need cheap, young players to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and soul of the team three years down the road [unquote] I agree, but unfortunately that's not the Redskins MO, they have demonstrated since Snyder bought the team that they are a FA driven team, and so far they have not demonstrated any willingness to change from that direction.

Lance Briggs aside, It is my gut feeling that the player the Redskins really want to land in this draft is Calvin Johnson, and that's despite our current WR situation. It will be a travesty if holding the 6th pick in the draft we emerge without a starting caliber player that can impact our defense.

I certainly hope we do eventually come to our senses, and make the descission to trade down, and get at least one minimum starter for our defense, maybe better?

But with all this LB action, and it doesn't appear real clear that it's over by any strech. How do you think they could pull off CJ?
I don't think that's where we are leaning at all.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I certainly hope we do eventually come to our senses, and make the descission to trade down, and get at least one minimum starter for our defense, maybe better?

But with all this LB action, and it doesn't appear real clear that it's over by any strech. How do you think they could pull off CJ?
I don't think that's where we are leaning at all.

CJ is a Dan Snyder fantacy, It has been reported that he very much would like to be able to draft him (so would a lot of other teams) Not insinuating we're leaning there, but i do believe if Snyder could find a way to make it work he would. I disagree because I'm all defense myself.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

CJ is a Dan Snyder fantacy, It has been reported that he very much would like to be able to draft him (so would a lot of other teams) Not insinuating we're leaning there, but i do believe if Snyder could find a way to make it work he would. I disagree because I'm all defense myself.

If Snyder is actually still pulling the strings to this extent, why on earth did he hire Joe Gibbs, make him team president, and give him control of all "football decisions????"

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by GMScud

If Snyder is actually still pulling the strings to this extent, why on earth did he hire Joe Gibbs, make him team president, and give him control of all "football decisions????"

Cause he is Joe Gibbs. But that doesn't change the fact that Snyder is always going to be Snyder.