If Chargers can get a 1st & 3rd for Turner, don't we have to shop Betts?

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

We have a heck of a tandem with CP & LB! LB is going nowhere!
It would not suprise me one bit if LB is a career REDSKIN. This talk is nonsense!

A career Redskin after one sporadically good season is a bold statement. He didnt even have as many TD as Portis and he played more games! He wasn't even drafted by gibbs, so he, like the spurrier campaign, is soon to be a distant, yet painful, memory.

Even though he played well last season, this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year(e.g. Javon Walker - Packers, Adam Vinateri - Patriots, Trent Dilfer - SuperBowl Champs- Ravens, and Edgerrin James - Colts). Its not uncommon, or even bad business practice from any current NFl front office, that teams sign-and-trade players/trade players on draft day to enhace their draft posturing.

Yet, all of this remains to be seen. If Betts is on his way out, the best way to go about it is to wait until draft day. After all of the deals are on the table, then we can make a better decision as to how to package him(if we decided to take that course of action).

L Betts is not that good, and he is expendable for better draft posturing and roster depth. In this system a RB can be found late in the draft or via undrafted free agency(Preist Holmes, Willie Parker, and Dominick Rhodes).

Lets stack draft picks, draft wisely, and roll into next with fresh talent and depth at previously weak postions.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

A career Redskin after one sporadically good season is a bold statement. He didnt even have as many TD as Portis and he played more games! He wasn't even drafted by gibbs, so he, like the spurrier campaign, is soon to be a distant, yet painful, memory.

Even though he played well last season, this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year(e.g. Javon Walker - Packers, Adam Vinateri - Patriots, Trent Dilfer - SuperBowl Champs- Ravens, and Edgerrin James - Colts). Its not uncommon, or even bad business practice from any current NFl front office, that teams sign-and-trade players/trade players on draft day to enhace their draft posturing.

Yet, all of this remains to be seen. If Betts is on his way out, the best way to go about it is to wait until draft day. After all of the deals are on the table, then we can make a better decision as to how to package him(if we decided to take that course of action).

L Betts is not that good, and he is expendable for better draft posturing and roster depth. In this system a RB can be found late in the draft or via undrafted free agency(Preist Holmes, Willie Parker, and Dominick Rhodes).

Lets stack draft picks, draft wisely, and roll into next with fresh talent and depth at previously weak postions.

If you're going to go putting stuff in bold font, you should at least know what you're talking about. Walker held out and essentially forced a trade, Vinatieri and EJ were both free agents who left their teams for better deals. That's not the same as trading a player. Maybe, just maybe you could make the argument that not re-signing a free agent is the same as "releasing" the player, but that would be stretching it.

I think we should leave our quarterback, running back and wide receiver situations alone. Not necessarily because I think Betts is great (he's decent) but because I think the unit as a whole would greatly benefit from all coming back together for another year.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If you're going to go putting stuff in bold font, you should at least know what you're talking about. Walker held out and essentially forced a trade, Vinatieri and EJ were both free agents who left their teams for better deals. That's not the same as trading a player. Maybe, just maybe you could make the argument that not re-signing a free agent is the same as "releasing" the player, but that would be stretching it.

I think we should leave our quarterback, running back and wide receiver situations alone. Not necessarily because I think Betts is great (he's decent) but because I think the unit as a whole would greatly benefit from all coming back together for another year.

Two things:

1) First off, I do know what I am talking about. I said in my earlier post, "this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year." My entire point was that a move of that mature would NOT be a precedent in NFL front office policy. Key words were "released" and "traded."

Javon Walker wanted a deal done b4 his breakout season, and when it came back that he was performing at a probowl level, he wanted a renewed contract b4 his last season. He never got it, then reported to camp and got hurt early in the season. After a great season, injury came, and then he was traded on draft day. Hmmm, a draft day trade, oh, how SO relevant, but it is often overlooked, by the eager to respond internet pundits.

2) Betts contract is made to be trade bait. 5 yrs 12 mill + 3 mil bonus. There are kickers and back up across the league that have WwaaaaayyyY better contract than than, especially after ther resigning. Albeit, we could use a good backup RB, we need more depth as a team via draft picks, which we seriously lack.

thats all. we both/all have points, but draft day will show up soon and we will either have our deal or out one 1st day pick.

My point is, when the draft comes, and we see ALL of the players pass us by, we are gonna be wishing we could get at leat one or two. Then the forums will pop up here, and I will be there to let everyone know that we'd be pissed after we couldn't pick anymore in the first day.

BUt we will see come draft day.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Two things:

1) First off, I do know what I am talking about. I said in my earlier post, "this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year." My entire point was that a move of that mature would NOT be a precedent in NFL front office policy. Key words were "released" and "traded."

Javon Walker wanted a deal done b4 his breakout season, and when it came back that he was performing at a probowl level, he wanted a renewed contract b4 his last season. He never got it, then reported to camp and got hurt early in the season. After a great season, injury came, and then he was traded on draft day. Hmmm, a draft day trade, oh, how SO relevant, but it is often overlooked, by the eager to respond internet pundits.

2) Betts contract is made to be trade bait. 5 yrs 12 mill + 3 mil bonus. There are kickers and back up across the league that have WwaaaaayyyY better contract than than, especially after ther resigning. Albeit, we could use a good backup RB, we need more depth as a team via draft picks, which we seriously lack.

thats all. we both/all have points, but draft day will show up soon and we will either have our deal or out one 1st day pick.

My point is, when the draft comes, and we see ALL of the players pass us by, we are gonna be wishing we could get at leat one or two. Then the forums will pop up here, and I will be there to let everyone know that we'd be pissed after we couldn't pick anymore in the first day.

BUt we will see come draft day.

Fine. I just thought it was wrong to lump Betts in the same sentence as guys like James and Vinatieri because the situations are not the same.

Moving on

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Two things:

1) First off, I do know what I am talking about. I said in my earlier post, "this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year." My entire point was that a move of that mature would NOT be a precedent in NFL front office policy. Key words were "released" and "traded."

Javon Walker wanted a deal done b4 his breakout season, and when it came back that he was performing at a probowl level, he wanted a renewed contract b4 his last season. He never got it, then reported to camp and got hurt early in the season. After a great season, injury came, and then he was traded on draft day. Hmmm, a draft day trade, oh, how SO relevant, but it is often overlooked, by the eager to respond internet pundits.

2) Betts contract is made to be trade bait. 5 yrs 12 mill + 3 mil bonus. There are kickers and back up across the league that have WwaaaaayyyY better contract than than, especially after ther resigning. Albeit, we could use a good backup RB, we need more depth as a team via draft picks, which we seriously lack.

thats all. we both/all have points, but draft day will show up soon and we will either have our deal or out one 1st day pick.

My point is, when the draft comes, and we see ALL of the players pass us by, we are gonna be wishing we could get at leat one or two. Then the forums will pop up here, and I will be there to let everyone know that we'd be pissed after we couldn't pick anymore in the first day.

BUt we will see come draft day.

I agree that we should trade off a back for picks, but it aint Betts, I would think we could get something along the lines of the hershel Walker deal for a superstar like Portis.