The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

So many things wrong with this post.

1) How in the world can you say Collins hasn't proven that his mind and skills are proficient at the NFL level? The guy hasn't gotten on the field since 1997, he's had durable QBs in front of him the whole damn time. He hasn't proven anything good, and he hasn't proven anything bad. He hasn't proven anything at all.

2) Brunell played reasonably well with less than a year of experience and total comfort in the system? You call what he did "reasonably well"?? Please don't read me his QB rating. I don't care about high-completion dinks and dunks when we're 17 points behind. He couldn't threaten the deep part of the field, and defenses ate our lunch by taking away the intermediate part of the field by sitting in cover 2s. Brunell was horrible.

3) Collins' real value to the team is that he can talk to Campbell and Brunell about running the offense. He can pass knowledge along. I can see the desire to get younger at QB, but that doesn't make sense when your primary goal is to bring Campbell along first and foremost. Why would you take away a player who could be a mentor regarding the technicalities of the offense?

1) I didn't say Collins had proven anything either way. As FRPLG said earlier, only a handful of guys DO have what it takes to play QB in this league. The expectation is that a majority of the 96 QBs in this league can't play. What's promising about Collins? College career? Brief playing stints? Anything?

Surprises happen, but I wouldn't put my money on Todd Collins being a hidden talent.

2) Well, I completely disagree. Because we DO have another sample to compare him to, and that's Campbells first seven starts of his career. You know as well as I do that the passing offense in Campbell's first five starts was a regression from Brunell of very sizable proportions. I didn't think he "sucked" in those starts, because I have an accurate representation of what Brunell was doing in the context of a poor team.

3) Why would we keep Collins on the roster to "pass knowledge along?" What are we paying Saunders for? Coaches coach, players play.