Don Imus

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

Trust me, I don't care. If there has been one complaints about me it's that I don't really care about anything but the $$$....hehe. What i'm trying to say is I'm never passionate about a particular subject. I'm not an ideologue.

I'm just pointing out things that are not so obvious to everyone might be to others. Things that don't seem hurtful to some might be to others. A lot of little things add up. The vBulletin filter thing is so very little and it doesn't really matter.

Well, you did make a point. The N word is something I don't didn't even think about when I was adding words to the filter. Partly because I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to use it, and 2nd because it's a word that I don't have to deal with in the manner that you do.

[SmootSmack]

Did his EP Bernard McGuirk get fired too? Because he's as bad, if not worse.

[SmootSmack]

Just because we don't talk about things like the war everyday, doesn't mean it's not at the forefront of our thoughts. It's just something different to talk about for a few days. I think, in a way, we talk about things like Anna Nicole (RIP) simply for the fact that it's not as big a deal-except to those directly involved-and it's almost a diversion. Which, I realize is a horrible thing to say about someone's death. But I think you understand what I'm getting at.

[SmootSmack]

By the way, when did wolfeskins even say he was White?

[100% PURE WHOOP ASS]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

By the way, when did wolfeskins even say he was White?

He didnt have to...........but I bet his any other race but Black, so, to make a statement that, it doesnt matter cause he's just an ass hole is ignorant, why do you think, ( and as a moderator you should be more senstive) its ok for anyone that is the majority to insult a person of color when this very country was builded off the back of Africans, are serious, I mean its insentive for anyone on here, to say that this was pointed at the whole team and not just black women......bullshit and your full of shit if you support that.......if a blackman or women, said when white people get wet the smell like a funky dog? is that an attack on a race, is that someone just being (an asshole), and if that statement was true, we dont have a right to insult anyone, thats racist bullshit, and I dont care how many times you or anyone try to cover for this biget, Im sure he wouldnt say that shit in front of a blackman, or he'll get his muthaF****** ass whooped, and I still think someone should knock his punks ass out!!!!!! Chew on that for awhile

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

He didnt have to...........but I bet his any other race but Black, so, to make a statement that, it doesnt matter cause he's just an ass hole is ignorant, why do you think, ( and as a moderator you should be more senstive) its ok for anyone that is the majority to insult a person of color when this very country was builded off the back of Africans, are serious, I mean its insentive for anyone on here, to say that this was pointed at the whole team and not just black women......bullshit and your full of shit if you support that.......if a blackman or women, said when white people get wet the smell like a funky dog? is that an attack on a race, is that someone just being (an asshole), and if that statement was true, we dont have a right to insult anyone, thats racist bullshit, and I dont care how many times you or anyone try to cover for this biget, Im sure he wouldnt say that shit in front of a blackman, or he'll get his muthaF****** ass whooped, and I still think someone should knock his punks ass out!!!!!! Chew on that for awhile

So to be clear, what you're saying is that the idiotic and indefensible statements Imus and his EP made were directed specifically at the Black women on the team, and was not meant to include the White women on the team? Furthermore, Wolfeskins is as ignorant bigot and I'm an insensitive something or the other?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I'm pretty optimistic about race relations. We've still got a long way to go before things are perfect, but they're pretty damn good when compared to just a few decades ago or other countries. People focus so much on the negative that they can't see the forest through the trees. Let me put things in perspective:

(1) Not that long ago, blacks couldn't sit in the front of a bus, drink out of certain water fountains, were expressly prohibited from eating at certain establishments, etc.

(2) Just a decade or so ago, an interracial couple wouldn't be able to date openly in many "progressive" areas of the country (let alone the "other" areas) without facing ridicule or worse. I'm in an interracial relationship and I don't ever feel any hostile attitude (okay, save when I visit South Carolina or certain areas of NOLA).

(3) Not that long ago, pop culture was divided between "black pop culture" and "white pop culture." Moreover, there was no mainstream Latino pop culture. Now, it's impossible to separate most aspects of pop culture along racial lines.

(4) For those of you who think racism is bad in America, I suggest you travel. Go to Afghanistan, where you may be beheaded for converting to Christianity. Go to Iraq, where they are not exactly tolerant of outsiders, or even insiders who belong to the wrong "set." Go to the former Yugoslavian republics.....ask them what they think of their neighbors who look just like them. Oh, if you think Western Europe is different, go to just about any place and see how much they love the Turks, Algerians, etc. Or, take a detour to Ireland, where white guys are killing other white guys because some worship a guy in a funny hat and others don't. Or go to Asia, where the Chinese hate the Japanese, the Koreans hate the Chinese and the Japanese, the Malaysians hate the Chinese (their anti-Chinese laws make Jim Crow sound like fun), etc.

So, while we've got a long way to go, we've also come a long way.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Needless to say 100%, I'm submitting your name to the other mods for a ban. I understand the issue is very sensitive and important, but physical threats are inexcusable. I tried reasoning with you and being polite, but apparently that's not enough. And, before you accuse the mods of being a**holes or racist, I thought I'd let you know that the mod board is very diverse in its racial and politcal makeup.

You could have made your points much more effectively (Saden-style), by debating the matter intelligently and civilly. There's simply no place on this board for threats against other members, whether the person making the threat is black, white, Latino, Asian, etc.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

AOL's Jason Whitlock- Time for Jackson, Sharpton to Step Down - AOL Sports

Here's a good read about how this whole thing got blown out of proportion.
And check out Jason Whitlock's, the writer of the article, picture at the top if you want to say that he has no frame of reference on this subject.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

AOL's Jason Whitlock- Time for Jackson, Sharpton to Step Down - AOL Sports

Here's a good read about how this whole thing got blown out of proportion.
And check out Jason Whitlock's, the writer of the article, picture at the top if you want to say that he has no frame of reference on this subject.

Whitlock is right on point. If they were appointed they would have been voted out long ago. Unfortunately the media gravitates to Sharpton and Jackson.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by saden1

Whitlock is right on point. If they were appointed they would have been voted out long ago. Unfortunately the media gravitates to Sharpton and Jackson.

Yeah. I kind of wondered why Sharpton and Jackson are the moral hierarchy of the situation.

Granted, Imus was way out of line, I really didn't think he understood the magnitude of what he was saying. This guy is bad, but I don't necessarily know if he's that bad. Maybe he is, I don't really listen to him so I wouldn't know.

I heard someone saying earlier that the guy who owns MSNBC said he made the decision because of the children in the world or something to that effect. This was purely a business decision (advertisers all pulled out), and from what I understand that same guy owns MTV.

I also wonder whether or not MSNBC still has to pay him the remainder of the contract. I'm not sure what he's done was a breach of contract, and a good lawyer may be able to make Imus one rich S.O.B.

[SmootSmack]

Well MTV is part of Viacom, which used to operate CBS as well before they split. MSNBC is part of General Electric

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well MTV is part of Viacom, which used to operate CBS as well before they split. MSNBC is part of General Electric

I'm wrong... never mind (good look smoot)

[ArtMonkDrillz]

In the context of the entire conversation, which I heard at some point when this story first broke but haven't heard since, I think Imus was joking that the team looked very manly. At one point he said they looked like the Toronto Raptors.
That being said, I think someone could argue that he was talking about the entire team. I personally don't think that he was referring to everyone, but I could see someone thinking that.

Here's a transcript.
There are definitely strong racial aspects to it, but I think he's being sexist more than anything else.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

In the context of the entire conversation, which I heard at some point when this story first broke but haven't heard since, I think Imus was joking that the team looked very manly. At one point he said they looked like the Toronto Raptors.
That being said, I think someone could argue that he was talking about the entire team. I personally don't think that he was referring to everyone, but I could see someone thinking that.

Well, you're just a bigot for thinking that and you should stop hiding behind your computer and take your sh-- kicking like the small-minded white man that you are. Why, I bet you're a skinhead who kicks puppies too (but only the black puppies).