Eh Yo, Skins On The Clock

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Tick,Tock. I agree with most points, potent 1-2 punch in backfield.

Dock was the weak link, and got overpayed. Not to sure about Fletch losing a step, his stats don't reflect a MLB that's lost a step. Good depth at corner is now established.

And IMO DE should be our primary focus, followed by a DT.

Good depth has yet to be determined. Remember Smoot got cut for a reason. He played on the worst pass defense in the NFL and then he got benched. Carlos has not played very well. Springs might not be here and if he is can he stay on the field. And this new guy Macklin, well I don't know anything about him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Good depth has yet to be determined. Remember Smoot got cut for a reason. He played on the worst pass defense in the NFL and then he got benched. Carlos has not played very well. Springs might not be here and if he is can he stay on the field. And this new guy Macklin, well I don't know anything about him.

On paper our corner back situation is certainly improved over last year.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Good depth has yet to be determined. Remember Smoot got cut for a reason. He played on the worst pass defense in the NFL and then he got benched. Carlos has not played very well. Springs might not be here and if he is can he stay on the field. And this new guy Macklin, well I don't know anything about him.

all true and all good points but i'll say this , smoot played pretty good in greg williams system and i would hope he will again. smoot did not "fit in" the minn. defense, they play the tampa two. smoot should be the skins #3 cb (maybe #2)
carlos was thrust into the #1 spot and he clearly was not ready for it but i do think he learned plenty while being the #1 guy and i think he will rebound nicely this year and be the #2 guy (maybe #3)
springs is definately a question mark. if he stays and if he's healthy he will be the teams #1 cb and IMO he's a top 5 corner when healthy.
i don't know much about macklin either but a few teams offered him more money than the skins so i'm guessing he's a pretty good corner.
overall i think the skins are in good shape in the cb area.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

springs is definately a question mark. if he stays and if he's healthy he will be the teams #1 cb and IMO he's a top 5 corner when healthy.

So out of Champ Bailey, Nate Clements, Chris McAlister, DeAngelo Hall, and Antoine Winfield -- which of these guys isn't as good as Shawn Springs?

4 or 5 years ago Springs might have made it into the top five, but even in tip-top shape, he doesn't quite make it today.

I agree with you though, our secondary is as good as it's going to get. We're set there -- but let's wait to see if the coaching staff agrees.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So out of Champ Bailey, Nate Clements, Chris McAlister, DeAngelo Hall, and Antoine Winfield -- which of these guys isn't as good as Shawn Springs?

4 or 5 years ago Springs might have made it into the top five, but even in tip-top shape, he doesn't quite make it today.

I agree with you though, our secondary is as good as it's going to get. We're set there -- but let's wait to see if the coaching staff agrees.

i'd take a healthy springs over nate,deangelo and antonio, those 3 guys are good but springs is just as good as them.
champ and chris are better though.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'd take a healthy springs over nate,deangelo and antonio, those 3 guys are good but springs is just as good as them.
champ and chris are better though.

Really? You would take a beaten up, often injured Shawn Springs over a rising star like DeAngelo Hall who's only 23 years old?

You sure you're not letting irrational fan-logic get the best of you?

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Really? You would take a beaten up, often injured Shawn Springs over a rising star like DeAngelo Hall who's only 23 years old?

You sure you're not letting irrational fan-logic get the best of you?

if i was chosing who to take for the future of my franchise , i'd take one of the younger guys but for next season i'd take springs, he already knows the system.

btw, irrational fan-logic almost always gets the best of me