Have we discussed???

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Can we all agree on this point:

No matter what the playcall is, or how conservative it is, we should be able to execute it for a first down a reasonable amount of times...and we certainly didn't execute this year.

While a well oiled machine will execute the majority of the time, our team just isn't there yet. So in essence there are more issues than originally stated. To sum it up I concur.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by angryssg

While a well oiled machine will execute the majority of the time, our team just isn't there yet. So in essence there are more issues than originally stated. To sum it up I concur.

Yeah, we pretty much need to bring our personel to the next level to be a playoff contender.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, we pretty much need to bring our personel to the next level to be a playoff contender.

After watching offenses such as SD and INDY, and then looking at ours, we were lathargic.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by angryssg

After watching offenses such as SD and INDY, and then looking at ours, we were lathargic.

Offensively we do a lot of stuff well. We have great YAC receivers and a wonderful QB situation. We have a two headed monster at RB, possibly the leagues' top TE, and an offensive line that is one of the better lines in the league. We just have flaws in the little points of offense that make scoring in the redzone and sustaining drives difficult. We were horrible on 3rd/4th and short last year and at running the ball in the red zone as there are numerous examples. Those things are really critical to being a successful offense, and are not easily fixed.

A talented blocking TE would be a good start though.

[redskins159]

Last season we had so many tough loses. We always seemed to be in a close battle even without a pass rush and forcing no turnovers. IF and only IF we get a good pass rusher and can generate turnovers will this team be successful. I am really shocked that we have not at least signed one defensive lineman in freeagency...granted there was not much out there, but we have only one major draft pick that is not enough to address a pitiful pass rush.

[4mrusmc]

Originally Posted by redskins159

Last season we had so many tough loses. We always seemed to be in a close battle even without a pass rush and forcing no turnovers. IF and only IF we get a good pass rusher and can generate turnovers will this team be successful. I am really shocked that we have not at least signed one defensive lineman in freeagency...granted there was not much out there, but we have only one major draft pick that is not enough to address a pitiful pass rush.

Well said. Turnovers guys. Turnovers.

[dmek25]

our defense was flat out brutal last season. for us to be in alot of the games was a miracle. but i don't see the defense playing like that again. Greg Williams head coaching career probably depends on it

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

or we need to score more points it just proves my new theory:

Score more points than the other team and 100 percent of the time you will win

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I personally think luck does matter in all sports, but it does not explain how many teams are consistently good or consistently bad within each season and also from season to season. IMHO, a combination of talent, preparation, intelligence, and hard work is the difference between a good team and a bad one.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I personally think luck does matter in all sports, but it does not explain how many teams are consistently good or consistently bad within each season and also from season to season. IMHO, a combination of talent, preparation, intelligence, and hard work is the difference between a good team and a bad one.

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[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I personally think luck does matter in all sports, but it does not explain how many teams are consistently good or consistently bad within each season and also from season to season. IMHO, a combination of talent, preparation, intelligence, and hard work is the difference between a good team and a bad one.

SGG pretty much has it right.

If your team loses 10 or more games every year for 6 years (*cough--DETROIT--cough*), I mean...yeah you are getting unlucky, but there is probably a much bigger factor in your failure. Maybe your GM keeps picking overrated WRs every year while ignoring blatent future needs.

But football seasons are 16 games long. That is a VERY small sample size. So you can get weak teams like the Saints who buy consistency at some key positions, get a lot of guys back from injury, and get a lot of balls bouncing their way, and go 10-6 with a playoff win.

Even more specifically, the playoffs are 3-4 games long. I would estimate the the best team in the playoff tournament wins the SB about 1/3 of the time. As mentioned above, SD may have very well been the best team. They did almost everything they could against the Pats to beat them into the ground, but lady luck just wasn't with them on that day. And because it was a playoff game instead of a regular season game, they can no longer win the SB, all because of a series of whacked out occurences.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

SGG pretty much has it right.

If your team loses 10 or more games every year for 6 years (*cough--DETROIT--cough*), I mean...yeah you are getting unlucky, but there is probably a much bigger factor in your failure. Maybe your GM keeps picking overrated WRs every year while ignoring blatent future needs.

But football seasons are 16 games long. That is a VERY small sample size. So you can get weak teams like the Saints who buy consistency at some key positions, get a lot of guys back from injury, and get a lot of balls bouncing their way, and go 10-6 with a playoff win.

Even more specifically, the playoffs are 3-4 games long. I would estimate the the best team in the playoff tournament wins the SB about 1/3 of the time. As mentioned above, SD may have very well been the best team. They did almost everything they could against the Pats to beat them into the ground, but lady luck just wasn't with them on that day. And because it was a playoff game instead of a regular season game, they can no longer win the SB, all because of a series of whacked out occurences.

Lady luck and the fact that all that guy had to do was fall on the ball instead of trying to pick it up. I forget who that guy was though.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Lady luck and the fact that all that guy had to do was fall on the ball instead of trying to pick it up. I forget who that guy was though.

Marlon McCree.

The point is though, although that select play was pretty stupid by McCree, the Chargers badly, badly, badly, badly outplayed the Patriots on that day. I'm sure the Patriots made at least 5 mistakes of similar magnitude earlier in the game.

Remember, had Edwards or somebody else on SD recovered that McCree fumble (a 50% chance), we aren't talking about that play in April.

But we very well might be talking about how LT really schooled Urlacher with that one juke en route to the SB MVP.

And how Peyton Manning is a choker because Antoine Bethea can't cover Antonio Gates.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Marlon McCree.

The point is though, although that select play was pretty stupid by McCree, the Chargers badly, badly, badly, badly outplayed the Patriots on that day. I'm sure the Patriots made at least 5 mistakes of similar magnitude earlier in the game.

Remember, had Edwards or somebody else on SD recovered that McCree fumble (a 50% chance), we aren't talking about that play in April.

But we very well might be talking about how LT really schooled Urlacher with that one juke en route to the SB MVP.

And how Peyton Manning is a choker because Antoine Bethea can't cover Antonio Gates.

I agree that there is luck. What more do you want from me.

[hagams]

Something I saw above sparked another curiosity within me. In 05 we were running a lot of screen plays to the WR/RB. I don't remember seeing a lot of that last year. Do you thing we got to predicatable? Someone above said about running up the middle 3 times, and the punting. Do you think that they were using last year as an extend preseason? Getting the basic plays down? I could see that happening, "We are going to take a lot of losses this year, but it will build the knowledge of the plays, and playbook for next year". Nobody said that, but that's something I could see in the FO. I know that Danny wants a ring bad, maybe he finally realized he can't buy it and it takes a few seasons to get a well-oiled machine. Hmmm.......just a thought. We really don't have too much else to talk about right now...