Have we discussed???

[Daseal]

What I'm saying is this, Gtripp: Joe Gibbs is ultra conservative, and that doesn't fly anymore. Greg Williams has consistently proven himself as quite a great defensive coordinator. I will take his recent track record over anyone elses. I see this year as the exception, not the rule. Especially seeing as how he couldn't do what he likes to do thanks to early injuries to our secondary.

Winning games shouldn't be put squarely on our defenses shoulders every week. Sometimes we need to grow some balls, man up, and try to put more points up. Have you not seen in the 4th quarter up by a touchdown the skins touch the ball 2-3 times on offense and easily go 3 and out each time. I mark this up to overall coaching and game management. Sometimes you have to rely on your defense, but sometimes you need to put points up. In '05 I saw our defense ripped on this board for being forced, every week, to try to save the game for the Redskins.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Daseal

What I'm saying is this, Gtripp: Joe Gibbs is ultra conservative, and that doesn't fly anymore.

That logically is incorrect. Gibbs' offense was ran in his second year back (in 11 years I might add) when the Redskins went to the playoffs and advanced. Heck, the Redskins fired off 5 or 6 wins in a row because they went to the run game more. Looking back at it this year...you have Al Saunders calling his offense, and G. Williams' defense collapsing. That has nothing to do with Joe Gibbs' offensive philosophy. By looking at the facts, it isn't Joe Gibbs being ultra conservative, it is the whole picture with a new guy calling plays and the defense letting us down.

Originally Posted by Daseal

Greg Williams has consistently proven himself as quite a great defensive coordinator. I will take his recent track record over anyone elses. I see this year as the exception, not the rule. Especially seeing as how he couldn't do what he likes to do thanks to early injuries to our secondary.

The same could be said for Joe Gibbs. He has consistently proven himself as a Head Coach, something Gregg Williams has yet to do. If we use this past year as an exception, then why not apply the same for Joe Gibbs and this run? Gibbs had injuries as well on the offensive side of the ball? Heck, Joe Gibbs has already proven himself able to lead a consistently bad team to the playoffs in this day and age.