Updated:At Least 33 Dead in Va. Tech Shooting

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Buster

More updates: he was on a student visa AND his handgun had the serial numbers filed off...no gun control would've stopped him from obtaining a black market gun illegally without proper legal identification.

I'm trying to avoid all debate right now, but didn't the police find a receipt for the purchase of the 9mm in his backpack? If so, that suggests he bought the guns legally.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm trying to avoid all debate right now, but didn't the police find a receipt for the purchase of the 9mm in his backpack? If so, that suggests he bought the guns legally.

If that's the case, he forged some ID somewhere. He's not a legal permanent resident of VA, which is a requirement for gun purchases.

Also, why would be file off serial numbers if everything was legal and legit, especially if he's going to kill himself anyways?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Buster

If that's the case, he forged some ID somewhere. He's not a legal permanent resident of VA, which is a requirement for gun purchases.

Also, why would be file off serial numbers if everything was legal and legit, especially if he's going to kill himself anyways?

The article that I just read, the one you posted, said that he was legally allowed to buy the guns in VA because he was a permanent resident.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

The article that I just read, the one you posted, said that he was legally allowed to buy the guns in VA because he was a permanent resident.

If that's the case, maybe they should consider changing their Commonwealth law from "resident" to "citizen".

Non-citizens of the United States have no protections under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, including the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Buster

Non-citizens of the United States have no protections under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, including the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

For better or worse, they actually do have protections under the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

For better or worse, they actually do have protections under the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Thanks to the ACLU and a lot of lawyers, yes they do...heck, even members of al Qaeda that are prisoners of war are being treated like citizens by some people...but they should not, morally OR legally according to our founding documents.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Buster

Thanks to the ACLU and a lot of lawyers, yes they do...heck, even members of al Qaeda that are prisoners of war are being treated like citizens by some people...but they should not, morally OR legally according to our founding documents.

I couldn't disagree more. I hate the ACLU and their ilk but at the same time anybody who is in this country should enjoy the protection of all our laws and rights equally. We are a country founded on fairness and equality. To apply our constitution to only the chosen within our own country is totally controvert to what we should be as a country. Now when it comes to persons outside the US fighting in a war against us or working against us in some threatening way I can live with having a different set of rules but once you're here though you should have the same rights.