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[irish]

There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

Although I am 99.99999% certain he will be gone if the Skins stay at 6, if he is available the Skins will draft QB Jamarcus Russell.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

Although I am 99.99999% certain he will be gone if the Skins stay at 6, if he is available the Skins will draft QB Jamarcus Russell.

Russell?

You're on crack.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Russell?

You're on crack.

I'll second that! Drugs kill brain cells, not any left on that statement.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

Although I am 99.99999% certain he will be gone if the Skins stay at 6, if he is available the Skins will draft QB Jamarcus Russell.

Are you kidding? I am desperately looking for sarcasm here, but I can't find it. D-lineman is not an "attractive and exciting enough of a position..." ???? Is it more attractive and exciting to be 27th in the league against the run and have a banged-up, aging D-line with a weak pass rush? It's "attractive and exciting" to win football games. I will argue that regardless of where we end up picking in the first round, we will take the best D-lineman available.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Is it more attractive and exciting to be 27th in the league against the run and have a banged-up, aging D-line with a weak pass rush?

That's a question for the coaches/front office -- I'm not convinced they're actually going to draft a D-lineman.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

That's a question for the coaches/front office -- I'm not convinced they're actually going to draft a D-lineman.

I don't think the coaches are really worried about what's "attractive and exciting." I think they're worried about what puts us in the best position to win ball games. I was just quoting Irish.

All I'm saying is there's no denying it's a definite area of pressing need. So if we end up taking a guy like Landry and don't draft any D-lineman, do you not agree we have to take more steps to address the position? We'd have to get a guy after the June 1st cuts (maybe a Kris Jenkins).

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

All I'm saying is there's no denying it's a definite area of pressing need. So if we end up taking a guy like Landry and don't draft any D-lineman, do you not agree we have to take more steps to address the position? We'd have to get a guy after the June 1st cuts (maybe a Kris Jenkins).

Absolutely. They should get both Jenkins and Ian Scott if they don't use their draft picks for D-linemen. My personal feeling is that Griffin and Salave's are both done; that they have been totally milked for all they're worth. The biggest fear I have is that the coaching staff believes they are fine with the current front four.

If Ian Scott is available now, why haven't they snatched him up? They've shown interest in every other aspect of defense (linebacker and secondary) other than the defensive line. That's why I'm starting to have this feeling that maybe they're not even considering DE or DT. Maybe they felt like last year's drafting of Golston and Montgomery, along with the signing of Andre Carter shored up any weaknesses at the front four.

The more I hear about Landry, the less irate I feel like I would be if we actually drafted him -- but that's assuming they pick up a defensive tackle or end somehow, somewhere. I'd be fitted for a straight-jacket if they completely ignore the front four and went for Landry then did something really stupid and pulled off a trade for an offensive guard or something.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Absolutely. They should get both Jenkins and Ian Scott if they don't use their draft picks for D-linemen. My personal feeling is that Griffin and Salave's are both done; that they have been totally milked for all they're worth. The biggest fear I have is that the coaching staff believes they are fine with the current front four.

If Ian Scott is available now, why haven't they snatched him up? They've shown interest in every other aspect of defense (linebacker and secondary) other than the defensive line. That's why I'm starting to have this feeling that maybe they're not even considering DE or DT. Maybe they felt like last year's drafting of Golston and Montgomery, along with the signing of Andre Carter shored up any weaknesses at the front four.

The more I hear about Landry, the less irate I feel like I would be if we actually drafted him -- but that's assuming they pick up a defensive tackle or end somehow, somewhere. I'd be fitted for a straight-jacket if they completely ignore the front four and went for Landry then did something really stupid and pulled off a trade for an offensive guard or something.

Yeah, I hear ya. Landry would be great provided we still significantly address the D-line. I know Gibbs is obsessive about preparation and planning. Maybe he has a solid plan in place about what to do with the D-line, and maybe nothing has happened yet to put a kink in his plan. Wishful thinking? I really, really think we should take a good hard look at Kris Jenkins, even if we do draft a d-lineman.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

Although I am 99.99999% certain he will be gone if the Skins stay at 6, if he is available the Skins will draft QB Jamarcus Russell.

Eesh. Worst post ever.

Defensive End is an incredibly sexy position. It doesn't get much better than sacking the QB, it's like baseball's homerun. Maybe you were speaking about DT. But even that, I don't see it. A stud DT is a pretty splashy move. Warren Sapp in his prime ring any bells?

And there's no way we'll draft a QB. That's just ridiculous.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by irish

There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

But Irish, football has changed. Fans are so sophisticated now, what with Madden, NFL Network, and around the clock coverage, they understand the importance of defense, oline, etc. How many Skins fans booed in 2004 when we chose a safety over an explosive tight end? My Dad did, but he's from the 1960's.

How often do you go talk to a guy with a Skins hat in the bar and he doesn't know what he's talking about? That NEVER happens!

People talk about Snyder's marketing brilliance and his ability to keep the fan base excited every year, despite a lack of success on the field. Well how much of this new free agent austerity this season is a response to outrage from the fan base over some of last year's moves? I would argue at least some (Lance Briggs notwithstanding).

[Citizens for 81]

Originally Posted by irish

There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

I don't mean to pile on you man, but the current administration has already drafted a defensive lineman in the 1st round before, Kenard Lang.

Right now I'm getting nervous though. For some reason I think the Redskins are going to pick Adrian Peterson.

I just hope this is paranoia and the Skins end up with Okoye.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Citizens for 81

I don't mean to pile on you man, but the current administration has already drafted a defensive lineman in the 1st round before, Kenard Lang.

Right now I'm getting nervous though. For some reason I think the Redskins are going to pick Adrian Peterson.

I just hope this is paranoia and the Skins end up with Okoye.

Lang was drafted in '97, long before Snyder owned the team.