How good will JaMarcus Russell be at the Pro Level?

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Masterfully written article by John Clayton illustrating my point:

ESPN.com - NFL/DRAFT07 - Clayton: Evaluating QBs just got tougher

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Masterfully written article by John Clayton illustrating my point:

ESPN.com - NFL/DRAFT07 - Clayton: Evaluating QBs just got tougher

u have a point but so do i just showing that draft picking is not a science it is a luck thing

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

u have a point but so do i just showing that draft picking is not a science it is a luck thing

At some point, you just have to hope you picked the right guy. That doesn't mean that certain features (like college experience) generally indicate a good prospect.

At QB, however, its a whole different animal. There is just so much data on college QBs that we can easily correlate any first round talent with the busts of the last ten years or the guys who panned out. Like, I can say with 99% certainty that Quinn>Russell. Brady Quinn just has to stay healthy and avoid circumstances that could ruin his career. Russell should have stayed in school one more year.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

At some point, you just have to hope you picked the right guy. That doesn't mean that certain features (like college experience) generally indicate a good prospect.

At QB, however, its a whole different animal. There is just so much data on college QBs that we can easily correlate any first round talent with the busts of the last ten years or the guys who panned out. Like, I can say with 99% certainty that Quinn>Russell. Brady Quinn just has to stay healthy and avoid circumstances that could ruin his career. Russell should have stayed in school one more year.

god man i respect the hell out of you but i just cant put quinn over russell man i just cant inhave weighed every possible option and i just cant

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

god man i respect the hell out of you but i just cant put quinn over russell man i just cant inhave weighed every possible option and i just cant

That's cool.

I think you are a smarter talent evaluator than Todd McShay anyway.

Everybody is entited to their opinion, but at some point, a lot of the scouts that ignore college stats for more flashy things like arm are going to get their roles reduced within their respective organizations and have their duties handed over to the better, more objective scouts.

NFL teams will get this QB scouting thing down to a science soon. IMO, it's just a tragedy that they haven't yet. You just have to wonder how many times Scouts can screw up and make excuses before the teams go hire someone else.

The Redskins actually have a really good college scouting department. It's too bad we trade all of our draft picks because I think the guys in our scouting department give us an inherent drafting advantage over most other teams. We seem to choose not to exercise this advantage.

Eventually teams will catch up to Philadelphia and NE in drafting the right guys because, after all, its really not rocket science. You pick the most talented guy with a good deal of experience at a need position, and hope that he doesn't unexpectedly bust. Avoiding underclassmen is a good way to cut down on busts.

And that right there is the source of the whole scouting issue. The fact that these guys think that they are one of only a select few in the world that can do their job. Learning how to be a good scout takes little experience as long as you are observant and willing to learn from past errors. Most guys in the league today simply aren't.