Grade Dan Snyder

[Beemnseven]

The grades are a bit higher than I expected from many people here.

They seem to be adjusted upward for his "good intentions".

Would George W. Bush get a higher grade because his 'heart was in the right place'? Or don't you ultimately have to judge the final results?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The grades are a bit higher than I expected from many people here.

They seem to be adjusted upward for his "good intentions".

Would George W. Bush get a higher grade because his 'heart was in the right place'? Or don't you ultimately have to judge the final results?

That's assuming W's heart was in the right place which is a huge assumption if you ask me. But that's a debate for another thread.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The grades are a bit higher than I expected from many people here.

They seem to be adjusted upward for his "good intentions".

Would George W. Bush get a higher grade because his 'heart was in the right place'? Or don't you ultimately have to judge the final results?

Ditto. Who cares about good intentions when the result of those intentions has been hot garbage for the majority of Snyders' tenure as owner?

And I think some people are misinterpreting his "burning desire to win". While I do think Snyder would blow his wad if Washington won the Superbowl, I think it would be because he would be able to sell several thousand more Portis jerseys, Redskins championship hats, and buckets of Popeye's Chicken(one of two official chickens of the Washington Redskins). The actual Superbowl victory, and what it means to the team, coaching staff, and fans would be an after thought.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Ditto. Who cares about good intentions when the result of those intentions has been hot garbage for the majority of Snyders' tenure as owner?

And I think some people are misinterpreting his "burning desire to win". While I do think Snyder would blow his wad if Washington won the Superbowl, I think it would be because he would be able to sell several thousand more Portis jerseys, Redskins championship hats, and buckets of Popeye's Chicken(one of two official chickens of the Washington Redskins). The actual Superbowl victory, and what it means to the team, coaching staff, and fans would be an after thought.

There are plenty of profitable ventures out there other than owning a football team. I think Snyder would want to win a Super Bowl for many reasons, money is probably on the list somewhere but mainly I think he'd love to rub the media's nose in it. Also, the guy did grow up a serious Skins fan, so I'd imagine the dream of being the owner of your favorite team when they win a Super Bowl is still very much alive.

[redskins159]

This is a topic that redskin fans cant be overly optimistic about just because Snyder owns the team. For every good move that has been made during his ownership their has been three or four terrible moves. Drafting Samuels, Taylor, Cooley were all good moves. Trading up to get mccintosh, trading draft picks to denver for Campbell are stiil yet to be determined. The free agent signings have been ridiculous. Snyders first year we went out and got every over the hill veteren we could find, deion sanders, bruce smith, jeff george all bad moves. We also grossly overpaid for Archuleta, Carter, Jeremiah Trotter,and countless others. Marcus Washington and Randy Thomas are basically the only really good additions to the team VIA free agency. The rest have been overpriced marginal players. More importantly most of our free agent signings are not with the team after three years. We traded picks away for nothing, the duckett deal and trading for Brandon Llyod. We shouldnt be so quick to deal our picks and overpay in freeagency. Overall I give Snyder at best a D+. This team needs an identity and direction.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Alright, the local sports station has a poll asking what grade Dan Snyder deserves since taking over in July 1999.

Objectively speaking (if that's possible) what grade would you give Snyder as an owner? I guess you have to consider overall success, playoff appearances, win-loss record, general direction of the team for the future, that sort of thing.

Here's the link -- it's on the left-hand side, third question down.

ESPNRadio1310

From an 'A' to 'F', what grade does Dan Snyder get?

You forgot to put in F-. If you put that in I would cast my vote as F-.
He is the one of the worst owners in sports. Who cares if he wants to win. The question is does he know how to win?

1. How do you fire Norv with a 7-6 record? Fire the guy after the season, not during. AWFUL!
2. 2000 speding spree was a complete joke.
3. Ran off Brad Johnson for Jeff George. AWFUL!
4. Fired Marty after he had the team on the right track. AWFUL!
5. Hired OBC who was a joke of an NFL coach. Why wouldn't you hire Marvin Lewis? Complete stupidity.
6. Charging fans for training camp. Would JKC ever do this? Hell no.
7. Not bringing in a GM. If Danny Boi really wanted to win as badly as we all know he does then he would bring in someone who knows how to do it. Why is Floyd Reese still working for ESPN? Who cares if it pisses off Gibbs. Too bad.
8. Why does he keep Vinny around? No reason to do so. WTF has Vinny done since he has been here? Oh yeah. He brought in Trung Canidate and let go of Steven Davis. Simply pathetic.

There is so much more but no need to even bring it up. He sucks as an owner. Period.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You forgot to put in F-. If you put that in I would cast my vote as F-.
He is the one of the worst owners in sports. Who cares if he wants to win. The question is does he know how to win?

1. How do you fire Norv with a 7-6 record? Fire the guy after the season, not during. AWFUL!
2. 2000 speding spree was a complete joke.
3. Ran off Brad Johnson for Jeff George. AWFUL!
4. Fired Marty after he had the team on the right track. AWFUL!
5. Hired OBC who was a joke of an NFL coach. Why wouldn't you hire Marvin Lewis? Complete stupidity.
6. Charging fans for training camp. Would JKC ever do this? Hell no.
7. Not bringing in a GM. If Danny Boi really wanted to win as badly as we all know he does then he would bring in someone who knows how to do it. Why is Floyd Reese still working for ESPN? Who cares if it pisses off Gibbs. Too bad.
8. Why does he keep Vinny around? No reason to do so. WTF has Vinny done since he has been here? Oh yeah. He brought in Trung Canidate and let go of Steven Davis. Simply pathetic.

There is so much more but no need to even bring it up. He sucks as an owner. Period.

AMEN BROTHER!! I gave him a D, only, ONLY b/c he brought Joe Gibbs back. That bumped him up a grade. Otherwise he's a big, emphatic, F.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

HA. No bait and switch, I just feel VERY, VERY opinionated as does SS about the subject of GM. I'm sure SS of all people remember this Simpsons episode, but does anyone else remember when Mr. Burns has a finch as the official "owner" of the plant? Maybe that's an idea for our GM.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

HA. No bait and switch, I just feel VERY, VERY opinionated as does SS about the subject of GM. I'm sure SS of all people remember this Simpsons episode, but does anyone else remember when Mr. Burns has a finch as the official "owner" of the plant? Maybe that's an idea for our GM.

Dude! It was a canary, not a finch! Christ, don't you remember?
He said the "C" in C.M. Burns stands for Canary M. Burns. Then he proceeds to peak at the little mirror for a minute.


Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go finish applying my Clearasil and braces rubberbands.

[SmootSmack]

The problem is that Sndyer is a huge fan, has been all his life. And it took him a few years to realize he can't act like a fan. He has to act as the owner first. So when people on this board bitch and moan about how did we lose that preseason game or how are we 5-6, he can't do the same. He has to step back and say "OK, big picture what's the situation here" And he's gotten much better, with considerable help from Gibbs, at doing that.

[hooskins]

Well it depends if you are grading for effort or performance. For performance it is D. Only think keeping it from F is Gibbs. Doesnt matter how hard he tried in the end it is responsibility as an owner to understand how to make a winning franchise and he obviously hasn't.

His heart has been in the right place though.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Dammit. I feel...so...ashamed.

F'ed in the A.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Dammit. I feel...so...ashamed.

F'ed in the A.

PWNED n00b!!!11!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Dammit. I feel...so...ashamed.

F'ed in the A.

I think Finch was a co-worker

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think Finch was a co-worker

Thanks for trying to make me feel better. *sniffle*