Redskins looking at WR in the first round

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Yes, I agree with that. I also agree that I have high expectations for CJ.

That's the thing though. They're all great receivers, phenomenal even, but they aren't making their teams any better. Like I said, CJ would be great for this team if he was a final piece.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That's the thing though. They're all great receivers, phenomenal even, but they aren't making their teams any better. Like I said, CJ would be great for this team if he was a final piece.

Even in that case, you'd have to be wondering why the Moss/Cooley combination would be considered inadequate, to the point where we would need to use a precious 1st rounder at the position. Seems to me that if you need to improve the passing attack, both those guys are capable of more responsibility.

I can't ever remember a situation where the hype ran this rampant before. I mean what you saw from CJ on Saturday's last year was pretty good. What these draft experts saw makes you wonder if theres a perception barrier or something. Theres just no way we were watching the same guy they were.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That's the thing though. They're all great receivers, phenomenal even, but they aren't making their teams any better. Like I said, CJ would be great for this team if he was a final piece.

Yeah but what about all the good receivers on good in the present and past?
Holt, R. Moss with the Vikings, etc.

And who is to say that team will not be better in the LR by getting a WR? They can work on their other pieces later, but get the best WR option right now.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah but what about all the good receivers on good in the present and past?
Holt, R. Moss with the Vikings, etc.

And who is to say that team will not be better in the LR by getting a WR? They can work on their other pieces later, but get the best WR option right now.

You're wrong. I'm right. End of discussion. Locking this thread

Seriously though, it comes down to a difference in philosophy I suppose. I believe in buidling from the inside out as much as possible. Meaning build the trenches then work your way out to the skill players.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah but what about all the good receivers on good in the present and past?
Holt, R. Moss with the Vikings, etc.

And who is to say that team will not be better in the LR by getting a WR? They can work on their other pieces later, but get the best WR option right now.

But what teams have ever built success around a top 10 WR pick. I mean, teams have won games with a top 10 WR on their roster, but usually they have to make another really smart top 10 pick to get over the hump.

It's the fallacy of WR's and the way they are graded out of college. A team takes a WR at No. 6, another team takes a WR at 25? Who will be the better player? Historically its been a toss up.

If you are trying to address WR, the best thing you can do is not fall in love with any of the available prospects, trade down in the draft, and take the best remaining guy.

Falling in love with a top 5 receiver has traditionally always been a bad move in the long run...even if the pick does pan out.

So teams foolishly now think this guy, Johnson, is going to buck that trend based on the amount of hype.

And if he does redefine the position and the team that drafts him successfully builds an offense around him, instead of using him as part of the offense, I will eat some major crow.

[DGreen28]

Do not draft a WR. Lloyd and ARE just got here. Isn't this going tho be there second year. Let Jason and them get timing down and they will do alot better.

[KnoxRedskins]

I think if they want to get a receiver to complement Santana and it's not CJ it should be Ginn...now that guy is explosive....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by KnoxRedskins

I think if they want to get a receiver to complement Santana and it's not CJ it should be Ginn...now that guy is explosive....

First of all, welcome to the board.

Secondly, don't we already have explosive guys in Moss and El?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

First of all, welcome to the board.

Secondly, don't we already have explosive guys in Moss and El?

yes we do

[GusFrerotte]

WR's are a dime a dozen come draft time, and usually the 1st rounder WR's tend to be busts as of late. We need to finally focus on the defensive line for God's sake!!!!! The only other position I can see us drafting at#6 that would make sense is if we actually made a play for Landry or(this sounds nuts I am sure) maybe even Quinn. After JC we have Mr. Noodle Arm and the other old man reject. Not much there if JC goes down or doesn't work out for some reason. Landry back there with Sean would be a killer prospect also. Just have to wait for Saturday and see what fun the Danny has in store for us!!!!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

For anyone who wants to trade up to nab CJ at #2, do people realize that we'd have to give him a deal (assuming it is six years) worth more than $60M with guaranteed money at or exceeding $23M? That's the deal Reggie Bush got and we'd have to exceed it. I don't know of a player who is worth about 10% of a team's cap or a WR worth an average of $10M per year.