Is Russell really better than Quinn?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by dmek25

ihow many people even knew Russell's name before they beat Notre dame? not many

Are you kidding? Maybe my grandmother didnt know his name, but my grandfather did and he doesn't even like college football particularily. You must not watch a lot of college ball, because this guy has been a stud for two years now. I think it was his comeback against ASU in 06 that really put him on the map, right after Katrina had hit.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Are you kidding? Maybe my grandmother didnt know his name, but my grandfather did and he doesn't even like college football particularily. You must not watch a lot of college ball, because this guy has been a stud for two years now. I think it was his comeback against ASU in 06 that really put him on the map, right after Katrina had hit.

But even in this offseason, no one knew if Russell was even going to be LSU's starter. I mean, talk about someone who wasn't on the NFL 1st round radar, his own team was evaluating other options.

It's hard to argue with the way he responded this year. But he has huge red flags in both decision making and college experience, and yet rather than come back to get these issues ironed out, he left for a big pay day.

Would a lot of guys have done the same thing? Of course. But then again I guess that's why there are so many busts.

What Leinart did by coming back for his Sr. year could have been the difference between an average NFL career and a hall of fame career. That's how important another year of college experience is to a position as mentally reliant as NFL Quarterback is.

I think Leinart will be a better QB prospect than Quinn, for the record, but that Quinn will be a pretty good QB in his own right.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But even in this offseason, no one knew if Russell was even going to be LSU's starter. I mean, talk about someone who wasn't on the NFL 1st round radar, his own team was evaluating other options.

That wasn't an indictment of Russell, but rather a testament to the amazing depth LSU had at that position, including a guy who won mvp in the Peach Bowl the year before after Russell got hurt, and the number one player coming out of high school. The fact that Russell was still able to easily secure the position is if anything a further credit to his ability.

There's no question that Quinn is the more NFL ready of the two, but by your own argument Gtripp rookies are developmental projects who shouldn't be expected to contribute immediately.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

There's no question that Quinn is the more NFL ready of the two, but by your own argument Gtripp rookies are developmental projects who shouldn't be expected to contribute immediately.

Exactly.

I just think that it's absured to expect that this experence edge that Quinn takes with him to the NFL to EVER be nullified, barring of course an injury to Quinn. JaMarcus is going to have to come in green as grass and not only learn the nuiances of the NFL but the developmental stuff he could have learned in college at the same time. The game is going to be really fast for him.

The game will be fast for Quinn as a rookie also, theres no denying that. But once Quinn gets a year of experience behind him, he should be ready to make the jump to a top half passer. Russell won't ever make this jump because he didn't learn everything he could have in college.

Any experience that Russell gets at the NFL level in practice is time that Quinn will also be improving his game. As long as they are both on the practice field every week, this large gap in experience isn't going away, ever.

There's stuff you learn in college that helps you in the NFL, and stuff you learn in the NFL to help you in the NFL. Russell cuts his college career short and he loses access to all that valueable experience.

He's never going to understand the game like Quinn does, and thats because Quinn got more exposure to the college game than Russell did.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Exactly.

I just think that it's absured to expect that this experence edge that Quinn takes with him to the NFL to EVER be nullified, barring of course an injury to Quinn. JaMarcus is going to have to come in green as grass and not only learn the nuiances of the NFL but the developmental stuff he could have learned in college at the same time. The game is going to be really fast for him.

The game will be fast for Quinn as a rookie also, theres no denying that. But once Quinn gets a year of experience behind him, he should be ready to make the jump to a top half passer. Russell won't ever make this jump because he didn't learn everything he could have in college.

Any experience that Russell gets at the NFL level in practice is time that Quinn will also be improving his game. As long as they are both on the practice field every week, this large gap in experience isn't going away, ever.

There's stuff you learn in college that helps you in the NFL, and stuff you learn in the NFL to help you in the NFL. Russell cuts his college career short and he loses access to all that valueable experience.

He's never going to understand the game like Quinn does, and thats because Quinn got more exposure to the college game than Russell did.

That's a fair point and you might be right. The other thing I worry about is Russell getting thrown into a terrible situation like Oakland and being expected to contribute immediately. These days the timeframe placed upon young quarterbacks is absurd. In many ways Quinn dropping might be the best thing for his career

[budw38]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Are you kidding? Maybe my grandmother didnt know his name, but my grandfather did and he doesn't even like college football particularily. You must not watch a lot of college ball, because this guy has been a stud for two years now. I think it was his comeback against ASU in 06 that really put him on the map, right after Katrina had hit.

Great game for LSU < Im a Sun Devils fan > , so the win was bitter sweet . The comeback was more special teams , they ran two blocked punts in for TDs . Maybe they are both all pro one day , one things for sure ,,, they will be very , very wealthy !