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[djnemo65]

Why do people hate Vick so much? I always wanted him to succeed, and think it's sad that he hasn't become the player we all hoped he would be. I still remember watching him during the 02 season with my jaw on the floor.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Why do people hate Vick so much? I always wanted him to succeed, and think it's sad that he hasn't become the player we all hoped he would be. I still remember watching him during the 02 season with my jaw on the floor.

I don't hate Vick. I'm a long time VT fan (14 years). I too want to see him successfull, but I will not ignor his mistakes.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by angryssg

I don't hate Vick. I'm a long time VT fan (14 years). I too want to see him successfull, but I will not ignor his mistakes.

Fair enough, I am pretty liberal when it comes to forgiving athletes. My argument is that I shouldnt expect more from those guys then I expect from my friends, and my friends are a bunch of degenerates. I actually kind of root for the bad guys.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Fair enough, I am pretty liberal when it comes to forgiving athletes. My argument is that I shouldnt expect more from those guys then I expect from my friends, and my friends are a bunch of degenerates. I actually kind of root for the bad guys.

I was a military brat as a child, and joined as an adult. I have high standards for personal conduct.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Why do people hate Vick so much? I always wanted him to succeed, and think it's sad that he hasn't become the player we all hoped he would be. I still remember watching him during the 02 season with my jaw on the floor.

It's not that i hate Vick, I hate the way everyone tabbed him as such a GREAT QB. He's not. When are people going to understand that just because you can run does not mean you can throw.
I remember him having a good game last year and then getting all upset in an interview saying "well that should shut everyone up about me not being able to throw well". The next game he passed for like 50% and sucked again. Vick is a faster Kordell Stewart, and Vince Young is cut from the exact same mold.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by jsarno

It's not that i hate Vick, I hate the way everyone tabbed him as such a GREAT QB. He's not. When are people going to understand that just because you can run does not mean you can throw.
I remember him having a good game last year and then getting all upset in an interview saying "well that should shut everyone up about me not being able to throw well". The next game he passed for like 50% and sucked again. Vick is a faster Kordell Stewart, and Vince Young is cut from the exact same mold.

I agree, but you have to admit, back in 02 when he went into Lambeau and beat the Pack for the first time in history in the playoffs, it looked like we were watching the dawn of something special.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I agree, but you have to admit, back in 02 when he went into Lambeau and beat the Pack for the first time in history in the playoffs, it looked like we were watching the dawn of something special.

I just never beleived it. I'm telling you the truth. I have always noticed a flaw in his game, and I beleive that you can have a good game once in a while and still be not very good. Look at Danny Weurfful? (sp?) He had some 300+ passing yard games. He sucked.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

It's not that i hate Vick, I hate the way everyone tabbed him as such a GREAT QB. He's not. When are people going to understand that just because you can run does not mean you can throw.
I remember him having a good game last year and then getting all upset in an interview saying "well that should shut everyone up about me not being able to throw well". The next game he passed for like 50% and sucked again. Vick is a faster Kordell Stewart, and Vince Young is cut from the exact same mold.

I believe that we had a similar discussion about Vince Young. While I agree that they are good athletes and exciting players, the actually take their teams style of play back to before the foreward pass was popular.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

I believe that we had a similar discussion about Vince Young. While I agree that they are good athletes and exciting players, the actually take their teams style of play back to before the foreward pass was popular.

Yeah, we did.
I don't care how good of an athlete you are, being a QB is a different breed. You have to have quick reflexes, strong, accurate arm, good decision making ability, and of course, Talent. Having legs helps...sure...but not required. See Manning and Brady.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yeah, we did.
I don't care how good of an athlete you are, being a QB is a different breed. You have to have quick reflexes, strong, accurate arm, good decision making ability, and of course, Talent. Having legs helps...sure...but not required. See Manning and Brady.

See also Palmer, Brees, and Rivers.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

See also Palmer, Brees, and Rivers.

I pointed out Manning and Brady cause they have rings.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I pointed out Manning and Brady cause they have rings.

Well these guy are the just below that caliber and without the rings, but still solid. But, yeah I see what you're saying.