The Never Ending Thread

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yeah, my friends call me "stat man". You'll never win an argument with me when stats are involved. I wake up cause for some strange reason, I love numbers and what they can prove.

So I have noticed.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

So I have noticed.

Yeah, that poor guy didn't know what he was getting into. haha

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yeah, that poor guy didn't know what he was getting into. haha

He is still on though.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yeah, that poor guy didn't know what he was getting into. haha

I know what I got into, Matty and I went through this same thing when Young got elected into the Hall.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I know what I got into, Matty and I went through this same thing when Young got elected into the Hall.

So You are just a Young Hater and nothing we say is going to convince you otherwise. Got it.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I know what I got into, Matty and I went through this same thing when Young got elected into the Hall.

Like angryssg says, you are just a young hater. The stats I provided for you are black and white proof. They are really unrefutable. For everything you said, I provided stats to disprove what you were saying and show that Young was better. The ONLY thing you have come back with is longevity issues. To me that doesn't matter, what matters to me is what he does with what time he has within reason. (a person who plays for 1 season and has great stats won't count...but Young was around for a good amount of time)
Again, read the stats, they are proof. I provided stat after stat after stat...think about this for a second...how can ALL those stats be wrong?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Like angryssg says, you are just a young hater. The stats I provided for you are black and white proof. They are really unrefutable. For everything you said, I provided stats to disprove what you were saying and show that Young was better. The ONLY thing you have come back with is longevity issues. To me that doesn't matter, what matters to me is what he does with what time he has within reason. (a person who plays for 1 season and has great stats won't count...but Young was around for a good amount of time)
Again, read the stats, they are proof. I provided stat after stat after stat...think about this for a second...how can ALL those stats be wrong?

So if longevity doesnt matter to you, do you feel that Terrel Davis should be in the Hall of Fame? Also, again if he was so much better than Montana then Young should have had an easy time pushing Montana out. And with so much better stats than Montana why doesnt Young have atleast 1 more ring?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

So if longevity doesnt matter to you, do you feel that Terrel Davis should be in the Hall of Fame? Also, again if he was so much better than Montana then Young should have had an easy time pushing Montana out. And with so much better stats than Montana why doesnt Young have atleast 1 more ring?

Dude I am finished talking about Young for now.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Dude I am finished talking about Young for now.

OK, I agree I really dont care either way, it was just something to talk about...

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

So if longevity doesnt matter to you, do you feel that Terrel Davis should be in the Hall of Fame? Also, again if he was so much better than Montana then Young should have had an easy time pushing Montana out. And with so much better stats than Montana why doesnt Young have atleast 1 more ring?

Davis does not deserve the Hall...he did not put up good enough numbers. He had 3 good seasons, that was it. Not enough for me. What I am referring to in longevity is talking about the difference in stats from someone that played 17 years as opposed to someone that played 13. Vinny is the perfect example. He played 20 years, of course his stats are going overwhelm someone that played 13 years or so. But that doesn't make him better. But you can't allow someone in the hall that had only 3 good years. You need to have a decent length career.

Again, you DO NOT under ANY circumstances push out a hall of famer for someone that hasn't proven anything. (see Brett Favre last year and this year)
In 1990, Montana was 14-2 (his last full season in SF). What allowed Young in the door was an injury to Montana, then he did so well, that the 49ers allowed a hall of famer to move on to KC. That says A LOT. So why would the 49ers push out a QB that went 14-2?

By the way, sometimes I like to argue too.