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[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Vinny Testeverde is not even close to a top 30 all time qb, yet he's 6th in pass attempts, 6th in completions, 6th in passing yards, and 9th in passing td's. The man threw for 56.6% comp, and a td to int ratio of 270 to 261. That's horrible. Obviously what I used as a measuring stick is more accurate than what you use. By your logic, Vinny is an all time great QB, and he's not.

No, by my logic Vinny isnt an all time great. He never accomplished anything ever. And I wasnt the one that pused ring aside, I believe you were. "I can see why you would take Marino, he was amazing (no sb ring by the way)," Going off of your statement I throughout Moons name. If you were willing to accept Marino because of his amazing stats and no ring, I figured Moon too fit that bill. Oh and Moon is in the Hall of Fame, so I must not be the only one to think that he was one of the great QB's to play the game.

Elway did have a 2000 yard rusher when the Denver Broncos won their SB. But what did he have the first 3 times that he lost the SB? And what does Ahman Green have to do with Favre and his stats? Green only played with Favre for 6 season out of Favre's 15 seasons.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

No, by my logic Vinny isnt an all time great. He never accomplished anything ever. And I wasnt the one that pused ring aside, I believe you were. "I can see why you would take Marino, he was amazing (no sb ring by the way)," Going off of your statement I throughout Moons name. If you were willing to accept Marino because of his amazing stats and no ring, I figured Moon too fit that bill. Oh and Moon is in the Hall of Fame, so I must not be the only one to think that he was one of the great QB's to play the game.

Elway did have a 2000 yard rusher when the Denver Broncos won their SB. But what did he have the first 3 times that he lost the SB? And what does Ahman Green have to do with Favre and his stats? Green only played with Favre for 6 season out of Favre's 15 seasons.

No sir, it was you that brought it up first:
Also, he started for SF for 8 years and the best that he could do was 1 SB.
In fact, I said that a ring is not an indicator of a great QB cause you need a team.
Also, I said Moon was a great QB. I just showed he's no Steve Young. The fact that you compared Moon to Marino kinda scares me. No one has stats like Marino. Moon is not even close.
I am failing to see your point about Elway and Favre. You asked me what they had, I told you. Young had Rice, other than that, just like every team, there are a lot of factors. Elway needed a 2000 yard rusher before he could win, and had a losing postseason record until he got that. So again, I'm failing to see your point.

You have to consider Vinny one of the best ever because the stats YOU provided Vinny is a top 10 all time in all of them (6th in 3, and 9th in 1.) You can't use that as a measuring stick then take it back out of convienance. What applies to one, applies to another.