News of the AXE possibly droppin on VINNY.

[GMScud]

Whenever other GMs and FO people around the league are asked about the Redskins FO, they always rip us (under condition of anonymity of course). They all wonder WTF we are doing. The consensus among other FO types around the league is that we are kind of joke. Vinny is a big reason for that. A few of my best friends are Eagles and Giants fans, and whenever they rag on me the first thing they pick at is our joke FO. I'm tired of it. Every team in the NFL uses a GM except the Redskins. The most successful teams in the league have great GMs (Indy, NE, Chi, SD, etc). We haven't won diddly poo since we stopped using a GM. Seems pretty obvious to me what the solution is. I wish Floyd Reese would leave that cushy desk at ESPN and come help us.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Whenever other GMs and FO people around the league are asked about the Redskins FO, they always rip us (under condition of anonymity of course). They all wonder WTF we are doing. The consensus among other FO types around the league is that we are kind of joke. Vinny is a big reason for that. A few of my best friends are Eagles and Giants fans, and whenever they rag on me the first thing they pick at is our joke FO. I'm tired of it. Every team in the NFL uses a GM except the Redskins. The most successful teams in the league have great GMs (Indy, NE, Chi, SD, etc). We haven't won diddly poo since we stopped using a GM. Seems pretty obvious to me what the solution is. I wish Floyd Reese would leave that cushy desk at ESPN and come help us.

Now,now......don't forget so quickly about 2005, pretty damn good year.
I'm certainly not a fan of Reese cup/ The Pacman recruiter, but he did ok with some of his work with the Titans.
But we could use a strong personnel/GM leader to work WITH Joe and Danny Boy.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Now,now......don't forget so quickly about 2005, pretty damn good year.
I'm certainly not a fan of Reese cup/ The Pacman recruiter, but he did ok with some of his work with the Titans.
But we could use a strong personnel/GM leader to work WITH Joe and Danny Boy.

2005 was one year. It was great, don't get me wrong, but I don't think anyone is satisfied with the Redskins during the Danny regime. Sure Floyd Reese drafted Pacman. One blemish. He was known as one the best GMs in the league during his tenure with the Titans/Oilers.

He also drafted:
Vince Young, Bo Scaife, Reynaldo Hill, Ben Troupe, Andre Woolfork, Tyrone Calico, Tank Williams, Rocky Boiman, Andre Dyson, Keith Bulluck, Jevon Kearse, Samari Rolle, Derrick Mason, Joe Salave'a, Eddie George, Steve McNair...

He's a better personnel guy than anyone currently working at Redskins Park.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Whenever other GMs and FO people around the league are asked about the Redskins FO, they always rip us (under condition of anonymity of course). They all wonder WTF we are doing. The consensus among other FO types around the league is that we are kind of joke. Vinny is a big reason for that. A few of my best friends are Eagles and Giants fans, and whenever they rag on me the first thing they pick at is our joke FO. I'm tired of it. Every team in the NFL uses a GM except the Redskins. The most successful teams in the league have great GMs (Indy, NE, Chi, SD, etc). We haven't won diddly poo since we stopped using a GM. Seems pretty obvious to me what the solution is. I wish Floyd Reese would leave that cushy desk at ESPN and come help us.

While I agree somewhat with the basic ideas here I will let you know that not "every team" has a GM.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

While I agree somewhat with the basic ideas here I will let you know that not "every team" has a GM.

This is true! By the way gmscud our BEST personnel guy is the HEAD COACH!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

This is true! By the way gmscud our BEST personnel guy is the HEAD COACH!

Is Gibbs really that great of a personnel guy? The jury I think is still out on that one. Beathard made those moves for him back in the day.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

While I agree somewhat with the basic ideas here I will let you know that not "every team" has a GM.

I know a few teams have a head coach who also acts as a GM, and I know Jerry Jones is owner/GM for Dallas, but I wasn't aware that any teams other than the Skins flat out did not have a GM position.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Whenever other GMs and FO people around the league are asked about the Redskins FO, they always rip us (under condition of anonymity of course). They all wonder WTF we are doing. The consensus among other FO types around the league is that we are kind of joke. Vinny is a big reason for that. A few of my best friends are Eagles and Giants fans, and whenever they rag on me the first thing they pick at is our joke FO. I'm tired of it. Every team in the NFL uses a GM except the Redskins. The most successful teams in the league have great GMs (Indy, NE, Chi, SD, etc). We haven't won diddly poo since we stopped using a GM. Seems pretty obvious to me what the solution is. I wish Floyd Reese would leave that cushy desk at ESPN and come help us.

Tell your Eagles friends to **** off because they don't know shit. Andy Reid has been serving as the de facto General Manager of the team for 6 years. Only last year did they "promote" Tom Eckert (sp?) to General Manager but it's more of a nominal role than anything else. Before that they were just like the Redskins in their decision making process

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Tell your Eagles friends to **** off because they don't know shit. Andy Reid has been serving as the de facto General Manager of the team for 6 years. Only last year did they "promote" Tom Eckert (sp?) to General Manager but it's more of a nominal role than anything else. Before that they were just like the Redskins in their decision making process

Tell your Eagles friends to **** off because they don't know shit..........
That's the correct answer smoot.

[Rajmahal33]

That bit about the Safeties and CB's meeting separately is ridiculous but its also a little overblown. Yes, they blew coverages but they also didn't have the talent on the D-line to help the DB's out. Which brings us back to the main point of the AXE dropping on Vinny

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Whenever other GMs and FO people around the league are asked about the Redskins FO, they always rip us (under condition of anonymity of course). They all wonder WTF we are doing. The consensus among other FO types around the league is that we are kind of joke. Vinny is a big reason for that. A few of my best friends are Eagles and Giants fans, and whenever they rag on me the first thing they pick at is our joke FO. I'm tired of it. Every team in the NFL uses a GM except the Redskins. The most successful teams in the league have great GMs (Indy, NE, Chi, SD, etc). We haven't won diddly poo since we stopped using a GM. Seems pretty obvious to me what the solution is. I wish Floyd Reese would leave that cushy desk at ESPN and come help us.

HMMM "DIDDLY POO" are you really Jim Mora Sr.?