The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by GMScud

We better get Kris Jenkins. Landry is a great player, but you HAVE TO address needs, and we didn't do that. We need DL something terrible. We'll see what happens.

So, PP, Omar, and Vernon are long term non-upgradeable players at safety?

Hmmm. No. So, it actually was a need position. The only debate is whether or not we now have too much invested at safety, a highly valid question.

And by the way, in all likelihood LaRon Landry is going to become one of the most popular Redskins players, quickly. Let's just see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions. What's done is done, and I for one will be looking for people who cry about this pick, only to become huge Landry Lovers once this guy shows us all what he is capable of on the field. I will personally hand out huge plates of crow pie to all those who are guilty of this likely and predictable flip flop.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

So, PP, Omar, and Vernon are long term non upgradeable players at saftey?

Hmmm. No. So, it actually was a need postion. The only debate is whether or not we now have too much invested at saftey, a highly valid question.

And by the way, LaRon Landry is going to become one of the most popular Redskins players, quickly. Let's just see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions. What's done is done, and I for one will be looking for people who cry about this pick, only to become huge Landry Lovers once this guy shows us all what he is capable of on the field. I will personally hand out huge plates of crow pie to all those who are guilty of this likely and predictable flip flop.

Ummm, so you are totally misreading what I'm saying. I think LL is a phenomenal prospect at his position. I am thrilled to have him. But when I look at how many teams got better at multiple positions, and when I look at how the Skins had ZERO picks in rounds 2-4, it sickens me when I see how many DL prospects passed us by. While LL may be awesome, we needed DL worse than safety. We better do something after June 1...

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Ummm, so you are totally misreading what I'm saying. I think LL is a phenomenal prospect at his position. I am thrilled to have him. But when I look at how many teams got better at multiple positions, and when I look at how the Skins had ZERO picks in rounds 2-4, it sickens me when I see how many DL prospects passed us by. While LL may be awesome, we needed DL worse than safety. We better do something after June 1...

I figured when you said, "we HAVE TO address needs, we didn't do that", that you where saying that safety was not a need position, when IMO it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.

DL continues to be a glaring need for this football team. We very well may not be competitive again until that is addressed. In the meantime, we no longer have any need whatsoever at the safety position, that much is now abundantly clear.

It is sometimes impossible to address multiple needs on an NFL football team when you have only one pick on day one of the draft. The frustrating part is that it is of our own doing. Hopefully, the lesson has been learned. Judging by recent indications, it has been. Notice that we have not traded away any more of next years draft picks for "established" players or for more draft picks this year.

I like the drafting of Landry, a lot. If I'm the GM of the Skins I'm looking to plug the holes as best I can on the defensive line this year, and next year I will be hard pressed to pass up on solid DL prospects in the first and second rounds. By that time, we will also have gathered a lot more information on Jason Campbell, who more than any one person will dictate the fortunes of the franchise.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

I figured when you said, "we HAVE TO address needs, we didn't do that", that you where saying that safety was not a need position, when IMO it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think what he's saying is, safety was a NEED position, but certainly an upgradable one. We NEED DLINE! We could have used a back up QB too since Brunell is inconsistant and old, and Collins is a nobody, so would Quinn have been a "need" as well?? I say no. A NEED is something we needed immediately and if not filled would still leave us hurting. (ie: DLINE)

DL continues to be a glaring need for this football team. We very well may not be competitive again until that is addressed. In the meantime, we no longer have any need whatsoever at the safety position, that much is now abundantly clear.

I'm glad to hear you say that, cause it seems everyone is drinking this landry cool-aid...and let's face it, it's tasty cool-aid, but we needed to address another position. AT least we know the secondary is not going to be an issue at all this season.

It is sometimes impossible to address multiple needs on an NFL football team when you have only one pick on day one of the draft. The frustrating part is that it is of our own doing. Hopefully, the lesson has been learned. Judging by recent indications, it has been. Notice that we have not traded away any more of next years draft picks for "established" players or for more draft picks this year.

For now anyway...knowing our dline is subpar, we could very well trade a pick away for a DE or something.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

So, PP, Omar, and Vernon are long term non-upgradeable players at safety?

Hmmm. No. So, it actually was a need position. The only debate is whether or not we now have too much invested at safety, a highly valid question.

And by the way, in all likelihood LaRon Landry is going to become one of the most popular Redskins players, quickly. Let's just see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions. What's done is done, and I for one will be looking for people who cry about this pick, only to become huge Landry Lovers once this guy shows us all what he is capable of on the field. I will personally hand out huge plates of crow pie to all those who are guilty of this likely and predictable flip flop.

I don't think anyone is actually upset that Landry is going to be next to Taylor. I don't think anyone wants the guy to be a bust. I think everyone wants Landry to be a Pro Bowler and will root for him. BUT, I think there are a lot of people who question the emphasis on the secondary at the expense of the D-line. I think that's a reasonable view.

Can I keep a plate of crow pie for those who think our D-line didn't need an upgrade via the 6th pick?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone is actually upset that Landry is going to be next to Taylor. I don't think anyone wants the guy to be a bust. I think everyone wants Landry to be a Pro Bowler and will root for him. BUT, I think there are a lot of people who question the emphasis on the secondary at the expense of the D-line. I think that's a reasonable view.

EXACTLY. Good job SGG, right on the money!

Can I keep a plate of crow pie for those who think our D-line didn't need an upgrade via the 6th pick?

HAHA, hell yeah.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone is actually upset that Landry is going to be next to Taylor. I don't think anyone wants the guy to be a bust. I think everyone wants Landry to be a Pro Bowler and will root for him. BUT, I think there are a lot of people who question the emphasis on the secondary at the expense of the D-line. I think that's a reasonable view.

Can I keep a plate of crow pie for those who think our D-line didn't need an upgrade via the 6th pick?

I think the d-line needs help but with none of the guys available really being top ten $ worthy in a lot of people's opinion, I'm glad the front office went with the more sure fire pick instead of running the risk of tieing a huge contract to a player whose position puts out some of the biggest 1st round busts. The team probably has their eye on a few potential cap cuts and their are a couple others already out on the market whose asking prices are dropping each day it gets closer to the start of the season.

[Tha Posse]

I saw before the draft that carolina has realized his worth, and he won't be going anywhere