Daseal's thoughts on everything...

skinsguy · 04-29-2007, 09:17 PM

Daseal,

I agree with most of your post. I think the verdict is still out on Brandon Loyd, but I believe he has the potential. I'm in complete agreement about Landry.

Daseal · 04-29-2007, 09:17 PM

Haha hooskin. I actually thought about what a pompous prick I sounded like! BTW Hoo, just signed a lease for a place in centreville today, maybe we can grab a drink this summer if you come back from Char.

hooskins · 04-29-2007, 09:18 PM

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Haha hooskin. I actually thought about what a pompous prick I sounded like! BTW Hoo, just signed a lease for a place in centreville today, maybe we can grab a drink this summer if you come back from Char.

Hey that is sweet man, we will for sure. Perhaps hit up training camp sometime too?

Daseal · 04-29-2007, 09:20 PM

Definitely! I love training camp!

hooskins · 04-29-2007, 09:23 PM

Perhaps we will see the emergence of the real Bruise 'Bros.

jermus22 · 04-29-2007, 09:28 PM

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Our defense hasn’t had a defensive line since Charles Mann, yet we’ve had top flight defenses many years between then and now.

I believe in 2000 or we had two defensive lineman (Bruce Smith and Marco Coleman) each finish with 10+ sacks. That year we also had two solid run stuffers at DT (Dan Wilkinson and Dana Stubblefield), although both were still disappointments in their overall careers here. Still that defensive line was very good.

SmootSmack · 04-29-2007, 09:37 PM

I have high hopes for Lloyd in 2007, but his problems went way beyond a hat. His overall attitude changed. It's like Portis said on the John Thompson show, you keep offering to help and he keeps turning his back. At some point it's like "why even bother with him"

He has the talent, just has to get his head straight

GTripp0012 · 04-29-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have high hopes for Lloyd in 2007, but his problems went way beyond a hat. His overall attitude changed. It's like Portis said on the John Thompson show, you keep offering to help and he keeps turning his back. At some point it's like "why even bother with him"

He has the talent, just has to get his head straight

He's 25, going on 26.

Do you think he will ever develop both the maturity and physical consistency to make him worth keeping around?

SmootSmack · 04-29-2007, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's 25, going on 26.

Do you think he will ever develop both the maturity and physical consistency to make him worth keeping around?

I'd like to think so.

GTripp0012 · 04-29-2007, 09:52 PM

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I'd like to think so.

Me too.

I just don't see it. Hopefully he proves me dead wrong.

RobH4413 · 04-29-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Me too.

I just don't see it. Hopefully he proves me dead wrong.

He's a child. I really hope we're wrong...

I agree with GTripp here on our DL. Yeah it's practically the same D-Line as in past years, but they're older and injury prone.

We really don't have depth at DE, and if someone goes down... we have no pressure.

djnemo65 · 04-29-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd like to think so.

As an armchair Dr. Phil, it appears to me that Lloyd has problems that go beyond maturity. My suspicion is bipolarity or borderline personality disorder. Can't someone make him see a therapist?

rypper11 · 04-29-2007, 09:47 PM

Seattle and Oakland got 4th rounders for their WR mistakes. Couldn't we find someone willing to take Lloyd? I agree with everything else you said though. We could answer some DL depth with UFA. Big fan of Noland Burchette from VA Tech. Needs some polishing but could be a great 3rd down rusher.

mooby · 04-29-2007, 10:40 PM

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Seattle and Oakland got 4th rounders for their WR mistakes. Couldn't we find someone willing to take Lloyd? I agree with everything else you said though. We could answer some DL depth with UFA. Big fan of Noland Burchette from VA Tech. Needs some polishing but could be a great 3rd down rusher.

Burchette signed with the Falcons.

CancunCantinaBartender · 04-29-2007, 10:29 PM

I agree. Archuleta was supposed to be the same thing for our defense but he was miserable in coverage, fitting more into a scheme where he plays in the box instead of cover 2. However, I do get the impression that Landry is more of a hybrid, a guy who excels in zone coverage, makes interceptions, and clobbers people too. His one susceptibility could be man coverage, which hopefully our safeties will not be asked to do much.

It looks like he will be much better in coverage than Archuleta. Bottom line is they took the best defensive player available when no one was calling the FO to trade up.

I agree that we need to let the young players develop their skills. You can't have it both ways.

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Daseal's thoughts on everything... I have high hopes for Lloyd in 2007, but his problems went way beyond a hat. His overall attitude changed. It's like Portis said on the John Thompson show, you keep offering to help and he keeps turning his back. At some point it's like "why even bother with him" He has the talent, just has to get his head straight __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Daseal's thoughts on everything... Seattle and Oakland got 4th rounders for their WR mistakes. Couldn't we find someone willing to take Lloyd? I agree with everything else you said though. We could answer some DL depth with UFA. Big fan of Noland Burchette from VA Tech. Needs some polishing but could be a great 3rd down rusher.

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CancunCantinaBartender Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arnold, MD Posts: 39	Re: Daseal's thoughts on everything... I agree. Archuleta was supposed to be the same thing for our defense but he was miserable in coverage, fitting more into a scheme where he plays in the box instead of cover 2. However, I do get the impression that Landry is more of a hybrid, a guy who excels in zone coverage, makes interceptions, and clobbers people too. His one susceptibility could be man coverage, which hopefully our safeties will not be asked to do much. It looks like he will be much better in coverage than Archuleta. Bottom line is they took the best defensive player available when no one was calling the FO to trade up. I agree that we need to let the young players develop their skills. You can't have it both ways.

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