Brady's Bedtime Buddies

[Manusky91]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

Yes, I left out the players who were on the team last year on purpose, I was talking about the new additions. And I'll make this point again... You can say that the Pats were one 1st down away from playing in the Superbowl, but I say they were one Charger fumble, a fluke charger fumble at that, from not even playing in the AFC championship.

Do you really think that anyone is going to jump on your bandwagon and nitpick the Pats? As a Skins fan, I'd love to be in their position right now.

[gabe1984]

Originally Posted by Manusky91

Do you really think that anyone is going to jump on your bandwagon and nitpick the Pats? As a Skins fan, I'd love to be in their position right now.

This is not a bandwagon. I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just making some points.

[Manusky91]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

This is not a bandwagon. I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just making some points.

Unfortunately, your points were weak at best.

Do you remember what Stallworth did to the Skins last year?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

Yes, I left out the players who were on the team last year on purpose, I was talking about the new additions. And I'll make this point again... You can say that the Pats were one 1st down away from playing in the Superbowl, but I say they were one Charger fumble, a fluke charger fumble at that, from not even playing in the AFC championship.

Don't forget the 4 other fumbles, all recovered by NE...somehow.

[freddyg12]

WE definitely need to keep an eye on the Pats & see what the press says about them mid and late season. If the Pats fail or struggle, they will inevitably be compared to the Skins.

They deserve all the praise they get, but I just don't see them taking this team that far. I see 9-7, maybe a wild card. Of course on paper they've improved, but over the last couple of years on paper they've also regressed when they lost key players.

Everybody said they'd slip & they didn't. Well, now we may see at least a slight drop. My reasons for feeling this way are simply that they have changed the formula that got them super bowls. Maybe they will be able to get this team to gel, but in the last 2 years they've let some vets go while now bringing in some vet guys, which seriously alters the team's chemistry.

It also seems like their O line needed some help last year, but I can't say specifically that it's a weakness at all.

[J. Spanky]

i see know other team in the afc north posing a serious threat to the patriots.

they remain the only team in that division wth the luxury of absolute security at the qb position (pennington is an arguable exception but let's see 2 consecutive injury free seasons 1st).

the dolphins are undertaking yet another regime change. who knows who they'll really have under center this season. and that defense aint gettin any younger. i don't see them being any better than last year.

the bills should show improvement. they've had a good offseason thus far. their success depends heavily on the development of losman which is sketchy. marshawn lynch should be a big help.

IMO the 2nd best team is the jets. with an upright and able bodied pennington they could definitely push for a wild card spot. they also will need thomas jones to pan out. who knows what will happen there...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by J. Spanky

i see know other team in the afc north posing a serious threat to the patriots.

they remain the only team in that division wth the luxury of absolute security at the qb position (pennington is an arguable exception but let's see 2 consecutive injury free seasons 1st).

the dolphins are undertaking yet another regime change. who knows who they'll really have under center this season. and that defense aint gettin any younger. i don't see them being any better than last year.

the bills should show improvement. they've had a good offseason thus far. their success depends heavily on the development of losman which is sketchy. marshawn lynch should be a big help.

IMO the 2nd best team is the jets. with an upright and able bodied pennington they could definitely push for a wild card spot. they also will need thomas jones to pan out. who knows what will happen there...

Offensively maybe, but they also lost their best CB and LBs in Fletcher and Spikes.

[SmootSmack]

Since when did the Pats, Dolphins, Bills, and Jets join the AFC North?

[J. Spanky]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Since when did the Pats, Dolphins, Bills, and Jets join the AFC North?

east.. u know what i mean dude.

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Offensively maybe, but they also lost their best CB and LBs in Fletcher and Spikes.

valid point. i was tryin not to get TOO in depth in my 1st ever post lol

[wolfeskins]

it's hard to say anything negative about the pats simply because they've been so consistantly good. i feel that they have definately upgrade their wrs and i would say they should be seen as the favorites to win the superbowl. the colts lost a few key players and the bolts lost a few key coaches, the pats on the other hand, gained a few key players.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

it's hard to say anything negative about the pats simply because they've been so consistantly good. i feel that they have definately upgrade their wrs and i would say they should be seen as the favorites to win the superbowl. the colts lost a few key players and the bolts lost a few key coaches, the pats on the other hand, gained a few key players.

Well, they've definately done a great job in March and April for about 6 consecutive seasons now. They have strong, intelligent management.

But that's all that seperates teams like NE, Philly, and SD from the rest of the league. They aren't any more likely to luck into wins than any other team.

Some article I was reading made a great point. The Eagles are just the NE Patriots without the lucky bounces. Both teams have done an excellent job building their franchises, but when it comes to clutch situations, Philly gets hosed and the Pats pull a rabbit out of a hat.

And as a confirmed Eagle hater, I'm glad. But eventually, NE's luck will run out on them.

[holmester]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, they've definately done a great job in March and April for about 6 consecutive seasons now. They have strong, intelligent management.

But that's all that seperates teams like NE, Philly, and SD from the rest of the league. They aren't any more likely to luck into wins than any other team.

Some article I was reading made a great point. The Eagles are just the NE Patriots without the lucky bounces. Both teams have done an excellent job building their franchises, but when it comes to clutch situations, Philly gets hosed and the Pats pull a rabbit out of a hat.

And as a confirmed Eagle hater, I'm glad. But eventually, NE's luck will run out on them.

And when luck whens you 3 out of 4 superbowls let me know so i can shove a rabbits foot up leprechauns ass and then shove that leprechaun up Snyders ass.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by holmester

And when luck whens you 3 out of 4 superbowls let me know so i can shove a rabbits foot up leprechauns ass and then shove that leprechaun up Snyders ass.

There has been way too much talk about asses in the Warpath recently. Did we sign Jeff Garcia?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

There has been way too much talk about asses in the Warpath recently. Did we sign Jeff Garcia?

Why do you like him

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by holmester

And when luck whens you 3 out of 4 superbowls let me know so i can shove a rabbits foot up leprechauns ass and then shove that leprechaun up Snyders ass.

Being the best team in the league in 2003 and 2004 certainly had a lot to do with that. Just because you are the best team doesn't make you a champion. Just ask 2005 Indy, and 2006 SD and Baltimore. If the Patriots had gotten the bounces those teams had (although for 2005 Indy, they just ran into Pittsburgh on the wrong day), we wouldn't be hearing much about them, would we?

Don't even get me started on the 2001 team. They were maybe the 11th or 12th best team in the regular season, only got into the playoffs playing a last place schedule, and as we all know, probably shouldn't have gotten by a much better Oakland team in the divisional round. Not to mention their path after than included a team Quarterbacked by Kordell Stewart, and a Rams team who certainly did not play their best game in the Super Bowl. 2001 NE was probably the luckiest season ever.

2002 NE was a much better football team than 2001 NE, and they didn't even make the playoffs. How's that for luck varience?

So if you can find THAT leprechaun, I will bend Danny Snyder over myself.