Brady's Bedtime Buddies

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Originally Posted by angryssg

They are two different types of receiver. There are things that you get from Santanna that you don't get from Randy and vise versa. But with that being said Steve Smith is better than Santanna (Same type of receiver).

How are they different except that Randy is taller can jump higher and is faster?

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

How are they different except that Randy is taller can jump higher and is faster?

They have different skill sets. Randy is more possession, Santanna is more RAC. Granted they both do both. Randy may be a tad faster, but Santanna is quicker. And yes it is due to body type.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

They have different skill sets. Randy is more possession, Santanna is more RAC. Granted they both do both. Randy may be a tad faster, but Santanna is quicker. And yes it is due to body type.

Randy Moss is not a posession receiver. He is the best deep threat in the history of the league. Bar none.

Come on now.

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Randy Moss is not a posession receiver. He is the best deep threat in the history of the league. Bar none.

Come on now.

Whatever.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Whatever.

Whatever? So who is a better deep threat? You can have any other wideout in the history of the NFL.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Randy Moss is not a posession receiver. He is the best deep threat in the history of the league. Bar none.

Come on now.

he WAS one of the best deep threat wr. i'm not sure about "all time". he has not been very good lately, i do understand he was on the raiders but still he has not been good as of late. he may return to form with the pats and once again become a very good deep threat. but if given the choice, i would take santanna over randy. santanna is the better all around wr. santanna is a threat every time he touches the ball, not just a deep threat like randy used to be.

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

he WAS one of the best deep threat wr. i'm not sure about "all time". he has not been very good lately, i do understand he was on the raiders but still he has not been good as of late. he may return to form with the pats and once again become a very good deep threat. but if given the choice, i would take santanna over randy. santanna is the better all around wr. santanna is a threat every time he touches the ball, not just a deep threat like randy used to be.

I have nothing else to say. Watch Randy play this year and talk to me 12 months from now. Just like my Keyshawn point last year.

I will take any bet on the side that Randy has more TD's and yards than Santana in 2007. Anyone willing to put their money where their mouth is, private message me.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I have nothing else to say. Watch Randy play this year and talk to me 12 months from now. Just like my Keyshawn point last year.

I will take any bet on the side that Randy has more TD's and yards than Santana in 2007. Anyone willing to put their money where their mouth is, private message me.

I agree. I think Moss is going to have a huge year.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I agree. I think Moss is going to have a huge year.

I think that both will have good years. Personally, I think that Santana could go for 1100 and 7 tds and that is a great year, especially since CP is going to have close to 2000 total yards and 15+ tds.

Randy will have at least 1400 yards and 14+ TD's. Does that mean Santana is not a Pro-bowl wide receiver? In the NFC he is. In the AFC he is lucky to be in the top 7. Indy and Cincy will have two receivers on each squad who are more productive.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I have nothing else to say. Watch Randy play this year and talk to me 12 months from now. Just like my Keyshawn point last year.

I will take any bet on the side that Randy has more TD's and yards than Santana in 2007. Anyone willing to put their money where their mouth is, private message me.

randy might very well end up with better stats then santanna but that doesn't make randy the better wr. i'd take tom brady over jason campbell as my qb. the pats just have a better offense then the skins do, maybe not better players but definately a more productive offense.

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

randy might very well end up with better stats then santanna but that doesn't make randy the better wr. i'd take tom brady over jason campbell as my qb. the pats just have a better offense then the skins do, maybe not better players but definately a more productive offense.

Yeah, WR stats in general are very problematic. All the popular ones like catches and yards are 90% a combination of the system they are in and the tendencies of the QB. However, guys who are consistenly at the top of the league are probably as good as billed. Just don't crown Marcus Colston yet...you don't know if hes going to be the next Michael Clayton.

The one good measure for a WR is how many yards he averages after the catch. A great WR will be at the top of the league in YAC, and a good receiver will be average at YAC. That is the true decider of WR talent.

Not to say that everything that happens before the catch isn't important, but a good QB will always try to hit the open man, so the "ability to get open" for a receiver is more about the type of coverage he is facing than about any special skill he has.

Any receiver in the league can beat man to man coverage a good percentage of the time. It's why blitzing can only be effective if the QB gets pressured. If he gets off a good pass, every CB in the league is screwed.