What to do with Springs??

[FRPLG]

Unless we get an overwhelming offer for him we have to keep him. He is our best CB. I would love to know why we want to get rid of him so much and why he wants out so much. I never perceived any issues before all this talk started after last season.

[DGreen28]

With Springs at CB. It makes the skins Nickel the best in the league.
CB-Springs
CB-Rogers/Smoot
Nickel CB- Rogers/Smoot
FS-THE BEAST- Taylor
SS-Prioleau/Landry/Omar St./Fox

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by DGreen28

With Springs at CB. It makes the skins Nickel the best in the league.
CB-Springs
CB-Rogers/Smoot
Nickel CB- Rogers/Smoot
FS-THE BEAST- Taylor
SS-Prioleau/Landry/Omar St./Fox

Ummm, that's pushing it a bit, don't you think?

Rogers and Smoot form the best nickel package in the league? You understand Smoot was demoted from the starting position with the Vikings, right? You have been actually watching Rogers play over the past two years, right?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Ummm, that's pushing it a bit, don't you think?

Rogers and Smoot form the best nickel package in the league? You understand Smoot was demoted from the starting position with the Vikings, right? You have been actually watching Rogers play over the past two years, right?

Forget it, he's rolling.

[70Chip]

Unless he is going to pout and moan and become a nuisance, we need to keep him. Both Rogers and Smoot are #2 corners AT BEST. Springs, when healthy is what someone else here called a "force multiplier" which I thought was exactly right. He plays the position at a different level than anyone else we have.

In the Dallas game at FedEx last year, Springs was beaten on a corner route (I think it was) when Dallas was driving around the 15 yard line. There were less than ten seconds left, so Springs just grabbed his man. He was called for PI, but Dallas had to settle for a FG because of the time and Parcells was beside himself. The fact that he had gone for 2 earlier and missed probably soured his mood. His mood got really, really, sour about two hours later. The point is that Springs is the only player we have who would have had the presence of mind to do that. The others would have given up 6. Let's keep him.

[wushawn]

Let me say something about Springs. I DONT LIKE HIM AND NEVER HAVE!!! Anytime this guy has a hangnail he sits out for 4 weeks, reason being is to extend his career to get his money. Hes good when he wants to be, hes all talk im tired of him. hes unreliable and to me USELESS. So what if we made him angry about asking the great shawn springs to take a pay cut, everyone may be on smoot saying hes not as good as springs, but at least he plays with heart unlike this clown. Am i wrong for thinking this way?

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by wushawn

Let me say something about Springs. I DONT LIKE HIM AND NEVER HAVE!!! Anytime this guy has a hangnail he sits out for 4 weeks, reason being is to extend his career to get his money. Hes good when he wants to be, hes all talk im tired of him. hes unreliable and to me USELESS. So what if we made him angry about asking the great shawn springs to take a pay cut, everyone may be on smoot saying hes not as good as springs, but at least he plays with heart unlike this clown. Am i wrong for thinking this way?

wow... hide, quick.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by wushawn

Let me say something about Springs. I DONT LIKE HIM AND NEVER HAVE!!! Anytime this guy has a hangnail he sits out for 4 weeks, reason being is to extend his career to get his money. Hes good when he wants to be, hes all talk im tired of him. hes unreliable and to me USELESS. So what if we made him angry about asking the great shawn springs to take a pay cut, everyone may be on smoot saying hes not as good as springs, but at least he plays with heart unlike this clown. Am i wrong for thinking this way?

You're not wrong, as I think that many of us are fed up with him getting hurt (namely last year). But also remember he hasn't missed that many games up to last year and has played his ass off for us when he's been in.

[hesscl34]

sure, right.. whatever. Trade him.

[FRPLG]

I still maintain that Rogers' performance last year is WAY underestimated. He had a decent year. We can't judge his whole year based on the dropped INTs. They pissed me off too but in the end he played relatively well. He was not burned terribly often considering we had no pass rush. I suspect that had he caught half of the INTs he dropped no one would be so down on him. The dropped INTs just aren't enough to convince me he can't play. Yet.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I still maintain that ROegsr performance last year is WAY underestimated. He had a decent year. We can't judge his whole year based on the dropped INTs. They pissed me off too but in the end he played relatively well. He was not burned terribly often considering we had no pass rush. I suspect that had he caught half of the INTs he dropped no one would be so down on him. The dropped INTs just aren't enough to convince me he can't play. Yet.

Exactly. I would be very suprised if he turned in a similiar performance this year. In fact, I'd be suprised if any of the defensive guys turned in a similiar performance this year.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I still maintain that Rogers' performance last year is WAY underestimated. He had a decent year. We can't judge his whole year based on the dropped INTs. They pissed me off too but in the end he played relatively well. He was not burned terribly often considering we had no pass rush. I suspect that had he caught half of the INTs he dropped no one would be so down on him. The dropped INTs just aren't enough to convince me he can't play. Yet.

dropped ITs, getting beat every game, waiting for the guy to come to him and not going after the guy... I could have played better.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

dropped ITs, getting beat every game, waiting for the guy to come to him and not going after the guy... I could have played better.

Well he didn't get beat every game even remotely and the technique they played was dictated by the coaches. for whatever reason they played off all year. Contrary to popular belief CBs don't usually get to decide how far off the WR they play. It is dictated by situation and scheme.

[dmek25]

this is dumb. unless someone is ready to step up, springs is easily our best corner. why do anything with him other than start him at corner?

[gabe1984]

Malcom, I sent you a PM with a chicken marinade recipe.