Springs and Taylor miss OTAs

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

No, my point is if Dockery can get a great deal, how much more Sean Taylor. But I doubt it will get that far anway.

I think Dock's deal was much more a product of a hot guard market as opposed to his quality. Traditionally, safeties aren't earning that kind of pay (as least i don't think so), but neither were guards. Point being, i don't think you can translate Dock's deal to ST.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I think Dock's deal was much more a product of a hot guard market as opposed to his quality. Traditionally, safeties aren't earning that kind of pay (as least i don't think so), but neither were guards. Point being, i don't think you can translate Dock's deal to ST.

The best comparison we can probably make right now would be the deal that Roy Williams signed with Dallas last year.

4 years, $25M, bonus of $11M.

Salaries roughly went up about 30% this year, so we can project the current value of that deal to be $32.5M with a bonus of $14.4M.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I think Dock's deal was much more a product of a hot guard market as opposed to his quality. Traditionally, safeties aren't earning that kind of pay (as least i don't think so), but neither were guards. Point being, i don't think you can translate Dock's deal to ST.

I'm not making a direct correlation in dollars, per se. But the fact that a guy like Dockery could command so much attention on the market, how much more could a game changer like Sean Taylor?

Actual dollars aside, teams would line up from here to Baltimore to get this guy on their team.

[Twilbert07]

ASHBURN, Va. (AP) - Joe Gibbs said Thursday he has had "no contact" with Sean Taylor and that the team has "lost contact" with Shawn Springs, leaving the Washington Redskins coach in limbo as to the status of the two starters missing from the team's spring practices.
"Obviously, it's disappointing," Gibbs said as the team wrapped up its third day of workouts. "We want everybody here."
The two defensive backs were the only no-shows when the team reconvened Tuesday after a longer-than-usual offseason break. Veterans were informally given leeway to do their offseason conditioning away from Redskins Park during March and April, but Gibbs was expecting everyone to attend the May and June practices.
Under league rules, players aren't required to attend any practices until the three-day minicamp in mid-June. Taylor has routinely been dismissive of any workouts not deemed mandatory, although he did participate in most of the offseason program last year.
Taylor has also stayed away in the past to express his displeasure over his contract, an issue that could arise again following the Redskins' decision to select another safety, LSU's LaRon Landry, with the No. 6 overall pick in the draft. Landry's contract is expected to be bigger than Taylor's.
"With Sean Taylor, I've had no contact whatsoever," Gibbs said. "I'm not aware of anything there, so that's about all I can say about it."
Springs, the team's top cornerback, has been the subject of trade rumors because of a contract that will cost the Redskins $7.4 million against the salary cap this season.
Gibbs said he had spoken to Springs extensively during the offseason -- including a sit-down during the NFL meetings in Phoenix in March -- and that the team had decided to keep the cornerback on the team under the current contract.
"Up to two weeks ago, we thought we were in real good shape," Gibbs said. "The coaches were talking to him, but then all of a sudden we lost contact."
Neither player's agent responded to requests for comment.
Gibbs, meanwhile, would prefer to hear something from the missing players. Any word is better than no word at all.
"I think it helps when you know what the situation is," Gibbs said, "and they'll talk to you and say 'This is what I don't like.'"

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

ASHBURN, Va. (AP) - Joe Gibbs said Thursday he has had "no contact" with Sean Taylor and that the team has "lost contact" with Shawn Springs, leaving the Washington Redskins coach in limbo as to the status of the two starters missing from the team's spring practices.
"Obviously, it's disappointing," Gibbs said as the team wrapped up its third day of workouts. "We want everybody here."
The two defensive backs were the only no-shows when the team reconvened Tuesday after a longer-than-usual offseason break. Veterans were informally given leeway to do their offseason conditioning away from Redskins Park during March and April, but Gibbs was expecting everyone to attend the May and June practices.
Under league rules, players aren't required to attend any practices until the three-day minicamp in mid-June. Taylor has routinely been dismissive of any workouts not deemed mandatory, although he did participate in most of the offseason program last year.
Taylor has also stayed away in the past to express his displeasure over his contract, an issue that could arise again following the Redskins' decision to select another safety, LSU's LaRon Landry, with the No. 6 overall pick in the draft. Landry's contract is expected to be bigger than Taylor's.
"With Sean Taylor, I've had no contact whatsoever," Gibbs said. "I'm not aware of anything there, so that's about all I can say about it."
Springs, the team's top cornerback, has been the subject of trade rumors because of a contract that will cost the Redskins $7.4 million against the salary cap this season.
Gibbs said he had spoken to Springs extensively during the offseason -- including a sit-down during the NFL meetings in Phoenix in March -- and that the team had decided to keep the cornerback on the team under the current contract.
"Up to two weeks ago, we thought we were in real good shape," Gibbs said. "The coaches were talking to him, but then all of a sudden we lost contact."
Neither player's agent responded to requests for comment.
Gibbs, meanwhile, would prefer to hear something from the missing players. Any word is better than no word at all.
"I think it helps when you know what the situation is," Gibbs said, "and they'll talk to you and say 'This is what I don't like.'"

Thanks for the information. If this is acurate its very disturbing.

[jdlea]

If he is pissed about his contract, I think he deserves an extension. I don't care what kinda message it sends. If it doesn't kill the cap, (which it probably wouldn't) it shouldn't be a problem. He's a very good player and if it can add years to his Redskins career, I'm all for it. I don't want to be worrying about his deal the way everyone is with Cooley (who should also be extended).

Dan Snyder won't miss any meals if he adds some more guaranteed money and base salary to Sean Taylor's contract.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by jdlea

If he is pissed about his contract, I think he deserves an extension. I don't care what kinda message it sends. If it doesn't kill the cap, (which it probably wouldn't) it shouldn't be a problem. He's a very good player and if it can add years to his Redskins career, I'm all for it. I don't want to be worrying about his deal the way everyone is with Cooley (who should also be extended).

Dan Snyder won't miss any meals if he adds some more guaranteed money and base salary to Sean Taylor's contract.

i agree 100%