Jason Campbell's development

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My bet is ARE is our #2 this year unless Lloyd can prove himself and get out of the doghouse.

I guess so. I keep harping on Brandon Llyod because he did have the worst stats in the NFL for a #2 but he sure made a lot of money and cost a lot of picks. I know a lot of people on the board say that it was the qb who could not get him the ball and that he was getting open and just running the routes that coaches asked him to run. Well this year there are no more excuses for Llyod. Jason Campbell's arm strength from what I saw and lots of other Skins fans saw is pretty darn good. Add to that the offensive line is 4/5 intact and one of the better lines in the NFL with 2 good rushers, a star WR in Moss and a good TE in Cooley - I just don't see if he has another bad year how anyone can still defend him and still think he should be part of the team.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Bill B

I guess so. I keep harping on Brandon Llyod because he did have the worst stats in the NFL for a #2 but he sure made a lot of money and cost a lot of picks. I know a lot of people on the board say that it was the qb who could not get him the ball and that he was getting open and just running the routes that coaches asked him to run. Well this year there are no more excuses for Llyod. Jason Campbell's arm strength from what I saw and lots of other Skins fans saw is pretty darn good. Add to that the offensive line is 4/5 intact and one of the better lines in the NFL with 2 good rushers, a star WR in Moss and a good TE in Cooley - I just don't see if he has another bad year how anyone can still defend him and still think he should be part of the team.

I won't be surprised if he's gone next year. He's got a lot to prove.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I won't be surprised if he's gone next year. He's got a lot to prove.

I do hope I'm wrong, but I agree if he doesn't have a heck of a season he's outta DC. I also think he was very close this year to being chopped, I think it came down to Lloyd or Arch.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I do hope I'm wrong, but I agree if he doesn't have a heck of a season he's outta DC. I also think he was very close this year to being chopped, I think it came down to Lloyd or Arch.

I agree it was probably a choice of AA or Lloyd. I guess the coaches thought Lloyd was the lesser of the two evils.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Bill B

I guess so. I keep harping on Brandon Llyod because he did have the worst stats in the NFL for a #2 but he sure made a lot of money and cost a lot of picks. I know a lot of people on the board say that it was the qb who could not get him the ball and that he was getting open and just running the routes that coaches asked him to run. Well this year there are no more excuses for Llyod. Jason Campbell's arm strength from what I saw and lots of other Skins fans saw is pretty darn good. Add to that the offensive line is 4/5 intact and one of the better lines in the NFL with 2 good rushers, a star WR in Moss and a good TE in Cooley - I just don't see if he has another bad year how anyone can still defend him and still think he should be part of the team.

I'm not sure why people are defending him after this season, but they are. Never say never--someone will always prove you wrong.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not sure why people are defending him after this season, but they are. Never say never--someone will always prove you wrong.

I wouldn't say that I'm a Lloyd defender, but I'm in the camp that thinks he's a lot better than the numbers he put up last year. I went to a couple games last season, and being able to see the entire field rather than what the cameras show you at home gives a different perspective.

I saw Lloyd get decent seperation on several occasions. The problem is he wasn't the first option on most plays. Brunell's reads 90% of the time were first option, then checkdown. Campbell's reads were the same way in his early starts because of inexperience. With Campbell being more comfortable in the offense and having gained some experience, I think B. Lloyd with have a pretty solid season this year.

He's also a very good blocker, which is rare in wide receivers.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I wouldn't say that I'm a Lloyd defender, but I'm in the camp that thinks he's a lot better than the numbers he put up last year. I went to a couple games last season, and being able to see the entire field rather than what the cameras show you at home gives a different perspective.

I saw Lloyd get decent seperation on several occasions. The problem is he wasn't the first option on most plays. Brunell's reads 90% of the time were first option, then checkdown. Campbell's reads were the same way in his early starts because of inexperience. With Campbell being more comfortable in the offense and having gained some experience, I think B. Lloyd with have a pretty solid season this year.

He's also a very good blocker, which is rare in wide receivers.

I think he is better than the stats show too. But he is going to have to drop the attitude and ball this year. Put up or shut up. I think ARE should be the 2nd wr.

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