McNabb/Briggs trade?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this is a joke. i agree with schneed. Mcnabb is the ultimate company guy who says and does all the right things. that and the eagles have been to 3 NFC championship games, and 1 super bowl with him. other then the injuries, why would the eagles even consider this? just yesterday in pfw i saw another proposed trade involving Mcnabb, to green bay for Favre. i say no way mcnabb goes anywhere. can anyone even name the eagles starter before Mcnabb showed up?

If memory is correct that was Detmer and then Peete. They won't consider this, but his days are numbered in philly.

If you can't stay healthy and on the field, which he can't doesn't matter how good you used to be.

[Schneed10]

I know it's a lame and pretty half assed way to debate, but you guys should trust us Philly folks on this. Probably the biggest reason Dmek and I are in agreement here is because we're both exposed to local sports coverage of Philadelphia sports teams that you guys don't get to see. We've both probably seen the same WPVI (Philly ABC affiliate) interviews showing Reid saying things like "I may be biased, but I think Donovan McNabb is the best quarterback in the entire NFL." and "There is no way I will ever trade Donovan McNabb."

95% of my friends are Eagles fans. Not one of them thinks the Eagles would actually trade him for Briggs. It's an insane idea from their perspective. As Philly sports heroes go, the town LOVES McNabb. They booed Mike Schmidt, ran Allen Iverson out of town, ran Scott Rolen out of town, etc. They may boo McNabb on occasion, but next to Lenny Dykstra, I don't think there's an athlete they've loved more since Julius Erving.

Not that fan reaction is a reason to keep a player. But the point stands, Andy Reid hand-picked Donovan McNabb and he still loves him to death. He just recognizes a need for serious depth at the position given McNabb's penchant for injury.

[Schneed10]

PS In case you didn't know, Reid has final say on all personnel moves.

[dmek25]

schneed, good analysis. day after day of hearing Reid declare Mcnabb as the second coming of Joe Montana. Reid wanted Mcnabb, got him, and will ride off into the sunset with him, right or wrong. almost like Gibbs did with Brunell. i would be willing to bet when Mcnabb leaves/ retires, Reid leaves the eagles

[PSUSkinsFan21]

I live and work in Philly, and I still say there is zero chance Banner puts up the money for the next contract for McNabb. That said, a trade this year or next makes sense. Not for Briggs......but I'd still wager that McNabb plays for a different team in the not so distant future.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

I live and work in Philly, and I still say there is zero chance Banner puts up the money for the next contract for McNabb. That said, a trade this year or next makes sense. Not for Briggs......but I'd still wager that McNabb plays for a different team in the not so distant future.

Next contract? Why is that an issue? He's signed through 2013! And it's not like taking up a lot of cap space is an issue for the Eagles, they're always well under the cap. Here's where Canuck's links to the salary cap pages of other teams comes in handy... in 2008 and 2009 they're $20 - $30 million under the cap.

There is no financial incentive to move McNabb from Philadelphia. Reid's not lying when he says Kolb was picked for insurance.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Next contract? Why is that an issue? He's signed through 2013! And it's not like taking up a lot of cap space is an issue for the Eagles, they're always well under the cap. Here's where Canuck's links to the salary cap pages of other teams comes in handy... in 2008 and 2009 they're $20 - $30 million under the cap.

There is no financial incentive to move McNabb from Philadelphia. Reid's not lying when he says Kolb was picked for insurance.

I stand corrected then......i thought I read somewhere that he had two years left. My bad for not having my facts straight.

[Hog1]

Wisconsin hates dogs????? WTF, what about sled dogs?????? On Donner, On Cupid, and the other dog's. Let's see......I know they like Badger's.......

[skinsfan69]

these off season threads are getting painful.

[GusFrerotte]

McNabb is expendable at this point. He has pretty much taken the Eagles as far as they are ever going to go. He choked in the big game a few years ago and with his injuries it has been all downhill from there. All he has to do is get that knee whacked really good and it could be all over for him. Option Qb's will never win a SB in my opinion, and McNabb IS overrated to boot.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

McNabb is expendable at this point. He has pretty much taken the Eagles as far as they are ever going to go. He choked in the big game a few years ago and with his injuries it has been all downhill from there. All he has to do is get that knee whacked really good and it could be all over for him. Option Qb's will never win a SB in my opinion, and McNabb IS overrated to boot.

I'd be thrilled if Jason Campbell played this year like Donovan McNabb did last year before he got hurt.

McNabb is still an elite QB, the main knock on him is injuries, which is a legitimate knock. But that only serves to strengthen the reasoning that Kolb was drafted primarily as an insurance policy, not as the team's future.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

McNabb is expendable at this point. He has pretty much taken the Eagles as far as they are ever going to go. He choked in the big game a few years ago and with his injuries it has been all downhill from there. All he has to do is get that knee whacked really good and it could be all over for him. Option Qb's will never win a SB in my opinion, and McNabb IS overrated to boot.

this is about the most ridiculous statement i have ever seen on this board. how would you feel if in the last 5 seasons the skins had made the nfc championship game 3 times and the super bowl once? had a qback that lead the league in passers rating 4 times? explain to me how mcnabb is over rated?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this is about the most ridiculous statement i have ever seen on this board. how would you feel if in the last 5 seasons the skins had made the nfc championship game 3 times and the super bowl once? had a qback that lead the league in passers rating 4 times? explain to me how mcnabb is over rated?

I would feel like thay had wasted a lot of opportunities. I think that McNabb was overrated but now most people see him for what he is: A\a good athlete with play-making ability whose passing accuracy and decision making run hot and cold.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I would feel like thay had wasted a lot of opportunities. I think that McNabb was overrated but now most people see him for what he is: A\a good athlete with play-making ability whose passing accuracy and decision making run hot and cold.

Decision-making runs cold???

The guy has NEVER thrown more than 13 INTs in a season. His career TD to INT ratio is more than 2 to 1. Last year in 10 games, he had only 6 INTs. His QB rating was 95. Even in 2005, when the Eagles were horrible, he had 9 INTs in nine games before shutting it down with the hernia.

Granted, he has days where everything he throws is low. But decision-making? He's one of the best ball-control QBs in the entire NFL.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Decision-making runs cold???

The guy has NEVER thrown more than 13 INTs in a season. His career TD to INT ratio is more than 2 to 1. Last year in 10 games, he had only 6 INTs. His QB rating was 95. Even in 2005, when the Eagles were horrible, he had 9 INTs in nine games before shutting it down with the hernia.

Granted, he has days where everything he throws is low. But decision-making? He's one of the best ball-control QBs in the entire NFL.

McNabb never seems to get the credit he deserves for some reason.