Portis apparently is not a dog lover

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

15,000 i doubt that but i just say what i have to say in as little words as i can

me too: ok

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

me too: ok

thank you sir

[Lady Brave]

Because you are basically spamming the board.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

Because you are basically spamming the board.

ok how am i spamming the board

[70Chip]

Roger Goodell has a statement out today condemning Portis. The comish is getting a lot of great press because of his campaign to clean up the league. "He doesn't want the NFL to end up like the NBA", is an oft repeated line.

I have to wonder, though, if this agressive approach will start to backfire after a while. He seems to think he's Oliver Cromwell or something. If I were Snyder I would not appreciate him chiming in like this so that he can be quoted in all the Portis stories. I wonder if this approach doesn't have the affect of making the problem seem worse than it is. Tagliabue was much more low key and the league was fine. I guess my question would be, "Is Roger doing this for the good of the NFL or is he doing it to elevate his own status and give the comissioner's office a higher profile?" I suspect the latter.

[Oakland Red]

Nice post.

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Roger Goodell has a statement out today condemning Portis. The comish is getting a lot of great press because of his campaign to clean up the league. "He doesn't want the NFL to end up like the NBA", is an oft repeated line.

I have to wonder, though, if this agressive approach will start to backfire after a while. He seems to think he's Oliver Cromwell or something. If I were Snyder I would not appreciate him chiming in like this so that he can be quoted in all the Portis stories. I wonder if this approach doesn't have the affect of making the problem seem worse than it is. Tagliabue was much more low key and the league was fine. I guess my question would be, "Is Roger doing this for the good of the NFL or is he doing it to elevate his own status and give the comissioner's office a higher profile?" I suspect the latter.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Roger Goodell has a statement out today condemning Portis. The comish is getting a lot of great press because of his campaign to clean up the league. "He doesn't want the NFL to end up like the NBA", is an oft repeated line.

I have to wonder, though, if this agressive approach will start to backfire after a while. He seems to think he's Oliver Cromwell or something. If I were Snyder I would not appreciate him chiming in like this so that he can be quoted in all the Portis stories. I wonder if this approach doesn't have the affect of making the problem seem worse than it is. Tagliabue was much more low key and the league was fine. I guess my question would be, "Is Roger doing this for the good of the NFL or is he doing it to elevate his own status and give the comissioner's office a higher profile?" I suspect the latter.

Excellent point, I'm getting sick of Goddell. The guy is kind of a meglomaniac it would seem. Has anyone noticed that Portis has not done anything. What he MEANT was that Vick has not even been convicted of anything and it is all rumor and inuendo. The whole Vick thing is stupid because no one knows his involvement (or lack thereof) and now Portis is just added on. Why people care what Portis says I have no idea except that the NFL now has a 24 hour news cycle so you need something to talk about.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Excellent point, I'm getting sick of Goddell. The guy is kind of a meglomaniac it would seem. Has anyone noticed that Portis has not done anything. What he MEANT was that Vick has not even been convicted of anything and it is all rumor and inuendo. The whole Vick thing is stupid because no one knows his involvement (or lack thereof) and now Portis is just added on. Why people care what Portis says I have no idea except that the NFL now has a 24 hour news cycle so you need something to talk about.

You are correct that Portis has done nothing wrong except for voicing hie opinion but his opinion supported illegal dog fighting. He should have just kept his mouth shut.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Excellent point, I'm getting sick of Goddell. The guy is kind of a meglomaniac it would seem. Has anyone noticed that Portis has not done anything. What he MEANT was that Vick has not even been convicted of anything and it is all rumor and inuendo. The whole Vick thing is stupid because no one knows his involvement (or lack thereof) and now Portis is just added on. Why people care what Portis says I have no idea except that the NFL now has a 24 hour news cycle so you need something to talk about.

Sick of him already?

I kinda like how he's setting a serious tone with the league, especially with the players on off the field issues.

All he did was comment on what Portis said, he's not going to punish him. I really don't see why Goodell's comments are off base.

Portis said something stupid and unfortunately it's something that the media is running with, no surprise there. Goodell is just doing his job.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sick of him already?

I kinda like how he's setting a serious tone with the league, especially with the players on off the field issues.

All he did was comment on what Portis said, he's not going to punish him. I really don't see why Goodell's comments are off base.

Portis said something stupid and unfortunately it's something that the media is running with, no surprise there. Goodell is just doing his job.

Agree 100%. Not only is it appropriate for Goodell to comment, it is the lack of leadership by Tags on these issues that let the league get to the point where a "correction" is necessary. Had Tags had the gumption to actually take a stand when players started getting in trouble more often in the late 90's then the problem may not have gotten this bad.

And for those of you saying "it's just words, he didn't do anything wrong" I have to disagree. His words, which will continue to air on every sports broadcast from here to August, put the league in a negative light in the public, which contributes to the perception that the NFL is a haven for criminals (which we all know is not the case 99% of the time). His words make a bad situation worse because it brings more negative attention. The commish was right to say something to try and diffuse the negative press, and I support him 100% in his effort to turn around the current trend of malfeasence with the players.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

And for those of you saying "it's just words, he didn't do anything wrong" I have to disagree. His words, which will continue to air on every sports broadcast from here to August, put the league in a negative light in the public, which contributes to the perception that the NFL is a haven for criminals (which we all know is not the case 99% of the time). His words make a bad situation worse because it brings more negative attention. The commish was right to say something to try and diffuse the negative press, and I support him 100% in his effort to turn around the current trend of malfeasence with the players.

Ok, but this leads me to ask 'why was a microphone was shoved in CP's face in the first place?'
This is a small time news station that they asked him this stupid question and he gave a stupid answer, and then it gets out to the rest of the world (as these things always do) and people run with it. Think how happy WAVY or whatever it's called is to be getting this kind of national coverage. Hell, this could land that reporter a sideline job on ESPN.
To me, this is very similar to Hardaway's (I think that was his name) comments about gay players in the NBA. I feel like sports reporters ask these ridiculous questions of athletes hoping to get a controversial answer that will get them more coverage. No good can really come from asking/answering questions like this.
Who gives a flying f*** what these guys think about dog fighting, homosexuality, the war in Iraq, dinosaurs, American Idol, or whatever else happens to be in the news that week? They are paid to play a sport or possibly analyze it after their playing time is done; we don't need them to tell us what is right and what is wrong with the world around us, because that's Bill O'Reilly's duty.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Ok, but this leads me to ask 'why a microphone was shoved in CP's face in the first place?'
This is a small time news station who they asks him this stupid question and he gives a stupid answer, and then it gets out to the rest of the world (as these things always do) and people run with it.
To me, this is very similar to Hardaway's (I think that was his name) comments about gay players in the NBA. I feel like sports reporters ask these ridiculous questions of athletes hoping to get a controversial answer that will get them more coverage.
Who gives a flying f*** what these guys think about dog fighting, homosexuality, the war in Iraq, dinosaurs, American Idol, or whatever else happens to be in the news that week?

Let me clarify, I DON'T care what Portis thinks. It is irrelevant to me personally as long as he contributes to the team. However, the fact that he willfully spoke in support of felony criminal activity is a problem in that it bring significant negative attention to the league and hurts the ability of the league to make money.

The issue is advertising, which is the lionshare of the NFL revenue via it's TV contracts. If the advertisers don't want to associate their product with the league because players are on the police blotter or are spouting off in support of felony crimes, the value of the TV time goes way down, the contract rights to broadcast games become less valuable, and the league gets less money from the Networks to air the games. So while it seems like it shouldn't matter what players say, it does.

You are right, the reports do ask stupid questions in an attempt to illicit a stupid response. Portis should know this and should know to either keep his mouth shut or respond in a manner supportive of the person, not the activity, regardless of his views. If he isn't smart enough to know the difference that's his problem. He deserves the backlash he is getting right now from the public and the commish.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Ok, but this leads me to ask 'why was a microphone was shoved in CP's face in the first place?'
This is a small time news station that they asked him this stupid question and he gave a stupid answer, and then it gets out to the rest of the world (as these things always do) and people run with it. Think how happy WAVY or whatever it's called is to be getting this kind of national coverage. Hell, this could land that reporter a sideline job on ESPN.
To me, this is very similar to Hardaway's (I think that was his name) comments about gay players in the NBA. I feel like sports reporters ask these ridiculous questions of athletes hoping to get a controversial answer that will get them more coverage. No good can really come from asking/answering questions like this.
Who gives a flying f*** what these guys think about dog fighting, homosexuality, the war in Iraq, dinosaurs, American Idol, or whatever else happens to be in the news that week? They are paid to play a sport or possibly analyze it after their playing time is done; we don't need them to tell us what is right and what is wrong with the world around us, because that's Bill O'Reilly's duty.

I agree but the problem is he was asked the question and he made the comment. He should have known better than to defend an illegal act if Vick is found to be involved. He should have just said something to the effect we will just have to see how this works itself out or I'll let Vick speak for himself. Instaead he aserted himself into the mix with his comment and his comments sense then are even dumber than what he originaly said.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Ok, but this leads me to ask 'why was a microphone was shoved in CP's face in the first place?'
This is a small time news station that they asked him this stupid question and he gave a stupid answer, and then it gets out to the rest of the world (as these things always do) and people run with it. Think how happy WAVY or whatever it's called is to be getting this kind of national coverage. Hell, this could land that reporter a sideline job on ESPN.
To me, this is very similar to Hardaway's (I think that was his name) comments about gay players in the NBA. I feel like sports reporters ask these ridiculous questions of athletes hoping to get a controversial answer that will get them more coverage. No good can really come from asking/answering questions like this.
Who gives a flying f*** what these guys think about dog fighting, homosexuality, the war in Iraq, dinosaurs, American Idol, or whatever else happens to be in the news that week? They are paid to play a sport or possibly analyze it after their playing time is done; we don't need them to tell us what is right and what is wrong with the world around us, because that's Bill O'Reilly's duty.

You act like these millionaire Players are the victims. I work for a professional Sports team and they tell us over and over and over again to watch what we say to the press or anyone on the street about our company's private business or anything that can reflect badly on our orginazation. We can lose our jobs for saying something stupid or private. It reflects on the entire organization.
You don't think these guys get the same message at work?
You are right about their opinions, nobody should care. But they know better than to run their mouth in front of any media big or small. Portis must have been the one asleep in the back of the class room when they received their media training.
I was also a student athlete in school; when you are good athlete you get preferential treatment and can get away with murder. Please don't say these guys are the victims, they shoot themselves in the foot.
One thing the players and some fans fail to see is it is a privilege to play in the NFL not a right. We as fans pay their salaries and the League (commissioner included) can terminate anyone for conduct detrimental to the league. I do not care if you are next Jim Brown if you continually f-up you will get tossed. I do not care how great of a talent you are, ask Pacman Jones.
You want to keep your Million dollar a year job playing a game, leave the thug BS behind in college and high school. Each individual player needs to make the decision do they want to keep their high paying job or keep their street cred. You decide because the two do not mix. You will eventually get in trouble if you lead a reckless life style. Is it worth it? Ask Pacman.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Excellent point, I'm getting sick of Goddell. The guy is kind of a meglomaniac it would seem. Has anyone noticed that Portis has not done anything. What he MEANT was that Vick has not even been convicted of anything and it is all rumor and inuendo. The whole Vick thing is stupid because no one knows his involvement (or lack thereof) and now Portis is just added on. Why people care what Portis says I have no idea except that the NFL now has a 24 hour news cycle so you need something to talk about.

I agree. Goodwell is putting more fuel on a fire by talking about it. THis is a team issue at best (i see nothing wrong with Portis' comments). Goodwell should stay out of it unless legal action is brought on Vick. No way he should have controll over what players say or even what people say they have done untill its proven in a court.