Redskins_P presents Best Training Camp Battle

[Smooter]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

He should be, but his attitude has been slipping. Stupid comments ever since last preseason and Saunders never liked him taking himself out of games. The way Betts played last year, Saunders could use him more to send Portis a message.

I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Smooter

I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.

ok that is crazy but welcome to the board

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Smooter

I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.

Welcome to the Board


<<note to self: should've kep anyone else from having the word "smoot" in username, mass confusion could ensue>>

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Smooter

I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.

Who cares about holding your tongue when you can't hold on to the rock?

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Betts is more Gibbs style anyway, just a frigging tank that can pound the rock.

This statement is just flat out wrong. Betts looks like he should be a tank, but looks can be deceiving. He's only effective when he has space to run, which was why he looked so good at the end of last season. The line was creating holes that you could drive a truck through. Portis runs harder, is faster, and is a better overall player. The only way Betts becomes the starter is if Portis goes down with an injury.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

This statement is just flat out wrong. Betts looks like he should be a tank, but looks can be deceiving. He's only effective when he has space to run, which was why he looked so good at the end of last season. The line was creating holes that you could drive a truck through. Portis runs harder, is faster, and is a better overall player. The only way Betts becomes the starter is if Portis goes down with an injury.

Betts definitely is not the power back that he appears to be.

He's not a pile pusher, he's more of a one cut and go kinda back. He needs space to be effective, it's no surprise he had the kind of season that he did last year especially down the stretch. The offensive line was just blowing people off the ball and creating huge lanes.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Betts definitely is not the power back that he appears to be.

He's not a pile pusher, he's more of a one cut and go kinda back. He needs space to be effective, it's no surprise he had the kind of season that he did last year especially down the stretch. The offensive line was just blowing people off the ball and creating huge lanes.

Yes. Betts has a good, decisive first few steps which would serve him well in any system. And I have had my fingers crossed for 5 months now that whatever the Redskins were doing with their line continues this September, because, as you say, those holes were gaping. I'm almost afraid to even think about the posiiblities. Makes me dizzy.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Who cares about holding your tongue when you can't hold on to the rock?



This statement is just flat out wrong. Betts looks like he should be a tank, but looks can be deceiving. He's only effective when he has space to run, which was why he looked so good at the end of last season. The line was creating holes that you could drive a truck through. Portis runs harder, is faster, and is a better overall player. The only way Betts becomes the starter is if Portis goes down with an injury.

Your statement is wrong. Last weekend durn the Beach Blast our local chanell had an inteview of him and played a highlight real of his play last year. There where several plays were he was hit behind the line by several players and he ended up making a good gain. They also had several plays of him fighting for more yards pushing guys back. I tought as you did but these clips showed that he can make big plays when he does not have a hugh hole to work with. I also thought that last year he showed some speed which I didn't think he had. Is Portis a better overall player? Yes I say so but I also believe that Betts could be a starter on allot of teams in the NFL and we got him for a very good price.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Your statement is wrong. Last weekend durn the Beach Blast our local chanell had an inteview of him and played a highlight real of his play last year. There where several plays were he was hit behind the line by several players and he ended up making a good gain. They also had several plays of him fighting for more yards pushing guys back.

A highlight real can make anyone look good. That's why it's a highlight real. Either way, the majority of Betts success last year was based on the line blocking their collective asses off.

And I'm not saying that Betts is completely untalented. I actually think he has better vision and patience than most backs in the league. I just strongly disagree with the idea that he's this hardnosed, pile moving tank.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Who cares about holding your tongue when you can't hold on to the rock?



This statement is just flat out wrong. Betts looks like he should be a tank, but looks can be deceiving. He's only effective when he has space to run, which was why he looked so good at the end of last season. The line was creating holes that you could drive a truck through. Portis runs harder, is faster, and is a better overall player. The only way Betts becomes the starter is if Portis goes down with an injury.

Betts finds holes and fits them faster than Portis does. Betts is also a much better receiver than Portis. Portis has more power, but his rep as a Redskin break-away runner is based on one run. He doesn't have the stats to support the notion he's a home-run threat. When I consider Portis' health and comparatives to Betts, I have to believe Portis is no longer as valuable to us as Betts is. I've heard all the nonsense about Betts running behind a better line than Portis has previously, but that's total nonsense. They've, in fact, run behind the same line. The only advantage Betts has had is the absense of Brunell. Hopefully, this year we'll learn how big a plus Brunell's absense will be. Maybe Portis can pull his stats to the levels established by Betts. I doubt it, but am willing to take a mouthful of crow to keep it from happens.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Betts finds holes and fits them faster than Portis does. Betts is also a much better receiver than Portis. Portis has more power, but his rep as a Redskin break-away runner is based on one run. He doesn't have the stats to support the notion he's a home-run threat. When I consider Portis' health and comparatives to Betts, I have to believe Portis is no longer as valuable to us as Betts is. I've heard all the nonsense about Betts running behind a better line than Portis has previously, but that's total nonsense. They've, in fact, run behind the same line. The only advantage Betts has had is the absense of Brunell. Hopefully, this year we'll learn how big a plus Brunell's absense will be. Maybe Portis can pull his stats to the levels established by Betts. I doubt it, but am willing to take a mouthful of crow to keep it from happens.

You are out of your mind. Portis' break away runner status is based on his career not his first run here.

By the way, what good is a runningback if they can't hold onto the ball?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Smooter

I agree. Best of all Ladell Betts knows how to hold his tongue.

Smooter sounds like cooter. I like it, you get my vote.