Let's impeach the president.

[Daseal]

JoeRedskin, don't you find it relatively sad that it takes the media breaking a story about Americans torturing people for the armed forces to clean up their act. There shouldn't have been any torture for a story to break about, in my opinion.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Daseal

JoeRedskin, don't you find it relatively sad that it takes the media breaking a story about Americans torturing people for the armed forces to clean up their act. There shouldn't have been any torture for a story to break about, in my opinion.

Don't you think the word tortur is being thrown around pretty loosly. Talk to some of our men that have been tortured and they will tell you what real torture is. What was done was wrong but I'm not sure torture is the correct term to be used.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Don't you think the word tortur is being thrown around pretty loosly. Talk to some of our men that have been tortured and they will tell you what real torture is. What was done was wrong but I'm not sure torture is the correct term to be used.

You want to re-classify torture? How about we call it "Humane Torture" or better yet "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques?"

For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.

...UN CONVENTION AGAINST TORTURE
and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading
Treatment or Punishment

No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind.

...Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Don't you think the word tortur is being thrown around pretty loosly. Talk to some of our men that have been tortured and they will tell you what real torture is. What was done was wrong but I'm not sure torture is the correct term to be used.

Who would stand up the best to physical torture among the current political figures? We know McCain has walked the walk. He held up magnificently yet still feels guilt about what he did. That's hard core.

I think Cheney would be a tough nut to crack but would probably have a heart attack very quickly.

Hillary might be the meanest of all. I bet you would have to really go beyond the pale to get her to break. She would be spitting and cursing at you as you turned the handle.

Mike Huckabee was a Baptist Minister so he is no stranger to discomfort. I think he would do well. The government made a study of Korean POWs and found that Fundamentalist Christians were among the best at withstanding torture. They have to be if you think about it.

Al Gore would, IMO, talk immediately. Ditto John Edwards. Mitt Romney. President Bush.

Bill Clinton would talk immediately but nothing he said would be true. He'd have his interrogators eating out of the palm of his hand, backslapping and laughing, all with fantastic lies.