Belichick...Best of All Time????

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

True well then if we're talking about right now then yeah he's the best right now, hands down. I just threw up in my mouth a bit just now. NO NO NO IT'S GIBBS IT'S GIBBS,.... ahhhhhhh that's better. No but seriously, he is. I just hate how everyone gets on their knees and gives him a good ol prize winning BJ for whatever he does.

Also i was thinking about Levy because while he never won the big one he made it there 4 times. 4 times his team was the best in his Conference, and they were always pretty competitive as well. I think he should be top 10 if not top 15.

Levy??? Is not in the discussion... If you remember, the AFC sucked in that era... Just like now the AFC is the dominate conference, the NFC had that era... The Raiders won in 1984 and not until the Broncos in 98 did another AFC team win the big game.

[memphisskin]

Quick answer, no. Best of this era, yes.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Cleveland is tough, can't dismiss it because it did happen, but whoa what a bounce back. But as far as coaches go I'd have to go with Parcells over Belichick because his least successful stop was Dallas and he still made the playoffs twice there. (Yaaaak! Ralph! Earl! Recch! :vomit

I'd go

1. Lombardi
2. Shula
3. Gibbs
4. Noll
5. Walsh

Belichick is in the discussion, and if/when he wins another SB (Brady to Moss should have been banned) then he's top 5.

Memphis,

Let me ask you a question. For EACH of Parcells Super Bowl appearances... who was his defensive coordinator? What did he accomplish the years with the Patriots and Cowboys without that coordinator vs what he accomplished with him??? He did squat in NE without Belichick and backed into the playoffs 2 times with the cowgirls.

[70Chip]

Ask me after this year. Charlie Weiss may end up having been Belichek's Belichek. Or Gibbs could add another.

And GTripp. Reid? How many conference finals has he lost at home?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Ask me after this year. Charlie Weiss may end up having been Belichek's Belichek. Or Gibbs could add another.

And GTripp. Reid? How many conference finals has he lost at home?

Two. And I savored each one for weeks.

Not sure how that detracts from Reid as a coach though. Unless you are claiming that he didn't have his guys ready or the like?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Two. And I savored each one for weeks.

Not sure how that detracts from Reid as a coach though. Unless you are claiming that he didn't have his guys ready or the like?

Well it certainly doesn't add anything. Is it your position that the Eagles are a really average team and only his brilliant coaching took them that far?

If you are at home you are favored to win so he basically got upset twice. So I guess I don't think he had his guys ready. Gibbs is about 7 and 1 in home playoff games.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Well it certainly doesn't add anything. Is it your position that the Eagles are a really average team and only his brilliant coaching took them that far?

If you are at home you are favored to win so he basically got upset twice. So I guess I don't think he had his guys ready. Gibbs is about 7 and 1 in home playoff games.

I think 2002 Tampa Bay was better than 2002 Philadelphia. Can't say the same about 03 Carolina (to 03 Philly).

But in any case, you are looking at a two game sample. Could be (and probably was) complete luck that the Eagles didn't win the NFC more than once in that era. Or it could be a combination of stiff competition and untimely whatever. On the whole, its only two games no matter how important they might have been.

Not that I'm complaining or anything.