Belichick...Best of All Time????

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Not at all. I think Belichek is up there and he's active. I think winning multiple SB's is what seperates good and great. Perhaps its not a perfect criteria but it is the most widely accepted. And if you don't use championships as a marker then I could say Lou Saban or Jack Pardee. All hell would break loose. I think my frustration over this is that so many people treat the Eagles like a dynasty and they haven't won anything. Why isn't Marv Levy on your list? Were the Bills that much better than the Eagles.

If you thought Saban/Pardee were among the best coaches ever, you should have said that. I know very little about either, so its possible that they could be the best two coaches ever and I would just be ignorant to it.

I just don't think that this list should be taking a list of ten legends, and arranging them according to personal preference. There actually should be criteria to meet, and at the top of my list was "uses personel to best possible utility". And IMHO, only Lombardi (with practically everyone he tried), Walsh (particularly with properly finding and utilizing two of the greatest QBs to ever play, and for scouting out Jeff Garcia), Shula (with the Earl Morall situation) ranked ahead of Reid.

And I'm not forgetting about Gibbs' quarterback utilization in the 80's, but IMO that doesn't seal his top ten fate. If I didn't get to see him match up vs. modern coaches, I certainly would have him there. But seeing him not clearly outcoach people on a week to week basis, I slid him out of my top ten.

And that's not to detract from his greatness, just to demonstrate how great I feel the ten I chose really are.

If a coach is handed superstars by his GM, he shouldn't have a problem starting them. If he's handed a bunch of spare parts, its up to him to find the hidden gems. The great ones will always play the best 11, regardless of prior rep.